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Re: Illiberal liberalism

Von: mrmcafee ((mrmcafee)nospam@cox.net) [Profil]
Datum: 27.09.2007 21:58
Message-ID: <EYTKi.117673$Vk6.52586@newsfe07.phx>
Newsgroup: or.politics alt.politicsaz.politics alt.california

Robert Miller wrote:
> "mrmcafee" <"(mrmcafee)nospam"@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:inZJi.109639$Vk6.36804@newsfe07.phx...
>>
>> Robert Miller wrote:
>>> "mrmcafee" <"(mrmcafee)nospam"@cox.net> wrote in
message
>>> news:3%XJi.80897$xZ2.5857@newsfe10.phx...
>>>> Robert Miller wrote:
>>>>> "Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen" <revbob@the.rectory> wrote
in message
>>>>> news:Xns99AD9E823E638revbob@140.99.99.130...
>>>>>> The kindly Rev. overheard metaluna <no@email.no> saying
on Tue 04
>>>>>> Sep 2007 05:09:19p:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLK will never be spokesman for
morality. He was a sex pig.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What does sex have to do with morality?
>>>>>>>>>>> xxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Best explained by writing Ted Kennedy, Bill
Clinton, Jesse
>>>>>>>>>>> Jackson, Sen. Craig....
>>>>>>>>>> Yet more validation that, to a Real
Right-Winger, Sex Conquers
>>>>>>>>>> All.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, so long as you can come up with *some*
excuse to let you
>>>>>>>>>> keep that hate burning (and never, never look
at the real
>>>>>>>>>> reason you hate those people (with the
exception of the one you
>>>>>>>>>> tacked on at the very end)), you're good to go
in the local
>>>>>>>>>> Ditto Room. >>> The hypocrisy evident
in this unwarranted
>>>>>>>>>> attack is classic
>>>>>>>>> projection.
>>>>>>>> You haven't had much exposure to Smith29, have you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am referring to this purported Reverend's erratic
behavior.
>>>>>> Sorry, Bubba, the question here isn't about supposeldoly
"eratic"
>>>>>> behavior, it's about your suppport for for Republican Party's
program
>>>>>> of racism.
>>>>>>
>>>>> How much support did the Civil Rights Act get from Democrats
compared
>>>>> to Republicans?
>>>> Quite a bit, if we are discussing the 1964 Bill which is the main one.
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2x6fcr . You should notice that the only Southern
>>>> Democratic Senator to support the bill was a Democrat, and the only
>>>> Southern Republican Senator opposed it.
>>>>
>>> Cherry picking your facts?
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
>>> Vote totals
>>> Totals are in "Yes-No" format:
>>>
>>> The original House version: 290-130   (69%-31%)
>>> The Senate version: 73-27   (73%-27%)
>>> The Senate version, as voted on by the House: 289-126   (70%-30%)
>>>
>>> By party
>>> The original House version:
>>> Democratic Party: 153-96   (61%-39%)
>>> Republican Party: 138-34   (80%-20%)
>>>
>>> The Senate version:
>>> Democratic Party: 46-22   (68%-32%)
>>> Republican Party: 27-6   (82%-18%)
>>>
>>> The Senate version, voted on by the House:
>>> Democratic Party: 153-91   (63%-37%)
>>> Republican Party: 136-35   (80%-20%)
>>>
>>> As you can see the Civil Rights Act had greater support by Republicans
>>> than by Democrats.
>> What I see is more Democrats voting for the bill that Republicans.
>>
>> It is a mute point, by any count. Yesterday's Southern Democrats are
>> todays Southern Republicans. This, there can be no refute.
>>
>>
> There are very few real Republicans or Democrats in office today, but if
> you understood the difference between a Republic or Democracy you'd
> understand that already.

I understand precisely what a democracy and a republic are, but what we
are discussing are Democrats and Republicans (members of political parties).


>>>>>  The problem as I see it is that the Republicans are much less
>>>>> socialistic/communistic than the Democrats.
>>>> What does this (erroneous) judgment have to do with racism?
>>> Do you even know what racism is?
>> Well let's see. I'm old and a Texan by birth and raising. Yes, I know what
>> racism is.
>>
> And what is racism?  Not that I don't believe you, but only about 1 person
> in 20 actually knows what racism is when they use the word.  It is one of
> the more misused we have today.

What do you think it is? Have you lived it? When where?


>
>>>> --
>>>> *******************
>>>>  Michael R. McAfee
>>>>      Mesa, AZ
>>>> *******************
>>>
>> --
>> *******************
>>  Michael R. McAfee
>>      Mesa, AZ
>> *******************
>
> Robert Miller
>
>

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Michael R. McAfee
Mesa, AZ
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