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Re: Dispensational Kook Factor

Von: gatekeeper (gatekeeper.eastgate@hotmail.com) [Profil]
Datum: 23.10.2007 09:48
Message-ID: <pxm7rixd20qs$.1jgikha1nrkqo.dlg@40tude.net>
Newsgroup: alt.religion.christian.last-days alt.messianic alt.bible.prophecy alt.christnet.christianlife alt.bible
On 22 Oct 2007 13:30:54 -0700, Emma wrote:

> In article <38nro6gaiovb$.hlqm40njnic2$.dlg@40tude.net>, gatekeeper says...
>>
>>On 22 Oct 2007 02:17:46 -0700, Emma wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I don't think I need to understand the title
>>> to comment on the content. It didn't matter
>>> to me whether the title was complimentary or
>>> insulting, since I was commenting on an inaccuracy
>>> of one of the statements in the article.
>>> What's wrong with that?
>>
>>Now that is kooky!  You can address the accuracy of a
>>statement, when you did not understand the topic of the
>>thread?
>
> Yes, because the statement in question was referring
> to a situation in Europe before the war. I was
> concentrating on that statement. I didn't have
> a particular axe to grind about anything else,
> because I'm not interested in dispensationalism,
> preterism, or any other "ism".
>
> So I didn't care about the main argument. I just
> knew that the argument wasn't being presented very well,
> because I could see a glaring mistake.
>
>
>>How could you possibly know what is accurate
>>or not?  Now if you had ask questions at the time for
>>clarification, then that would have been totally
>>different. Then if you had come to understand the
>>subject, that would have been acceptable as well! As it
>>is, all you were doing is demonstrating your ignorance!
>
> Like I said, I'm not interested in the "isms".
>
>
>>>
>>> You can ask me whatever you like...
>>
>>I have assumed that you are Anglican, which you may
>>have already identified yourself as!  Here in the USA,
>>we have Episcopalians which I think are basically the
>>same.
>
> They're not the same as my own particular church, no.
>
> Episcopalians are part of the Anglican communion, and
> they're known as Anglo-Catholics.
> But my own church (the Church of England) is broad, and
> ranges from Anglo-Catholics at one end, to Evangelicals
> on the other. Although most Anglo-Catholics left over
> the years.
>
> I go to a church which is on the evangelical wing
> of the Church of England. It's much more Protestant
> in style. The services are very informal. So it's
> very different to an American Episcopalian church.

So if a statement is being made about the Church of
England, who is the media referring to? We are led to
believe it is this monolithic structure, that is
decreasing in membership.  Is this the church you are
familiar with?
>
>
>> Originally as I understand church History, the
>>Anglicans broke away from the leadership of the
>>Catholic Pope, when King James desired a divorce, which
>>had to be granted by the Catholic Church!  Otherwise
>>they are fairly similar!
>
> I think you mean Henry VIII.

Sorry about that, Yes, Henry VIII!  As in, " Henry the
Eigth I am, I am!
>
>
>>Now I made a comment earlier in the discussion to that
>>affect, which may or may not be correct, and I would be
>>interested in your understanding on the issue, if you
>>are qualified to address the issue! Feel free to inform
>>me of any other pertinent info!
>
> Well, you're right about the C of E breaking away from
> Rome over Henry VIII's divorce. I thought you were
> throwing that at me as evidence that I go to some
> fake church. That's the usual accusation.
>
> So do you go the First Church of Preterism, or something?

Preterism and Dispensationalism are interpretive
techniques, which lead to the various branches of
Escatology, and do not by definition represent any one
particular denomination.  However because
Dispensationalism as it is used today, was started by
Darby, who also help found the Plymouth Brethren Church
which started in the 1830's in Plymouth England, they
are primarily Dispensational!  Now there are many
denominations, which primarily embrace the teachings of
Darby, though some do not identify themselves as Darby
Dispensationalist!

Preterism, similarly is not represented by one
denomination, however many reformed churches which
adhere to an A-mil Eschatology, are very sympathetic to
preterism!  I attend a reformed Presbyterian church
which believes in the current Lordship and Kingdom of
Christ on Earth now, and that we are His ambassadors
here on Earth. Everything we do now, is an extention of
His Lordship! The authority disciples have to speak in
His name, is because of His Kingdom Now on Earth! This
all has to do with preterism, though many who practice
them may not be familiar with preterism per se!

There are many forms of Preterism, and
Dispensationalism, and those distinctions are not
always recognized in these newsgroups! Sort of like my
not understanding that there are many branches of C of
E, from one end of the spectrum to the other. I would
be interested in learning more about the differences in
the C of E. Would you say that the website link you
provide, is representative of which group of the
Anglicans?

The Eastgate is open, the King is in Residence!
Whosoever will, may come in!

Gatekeeeper







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