Re: Thumbs Up for Expelled

"monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
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> bob young wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > monkfish wrote:
> >
> >> Thommadura wrote:
> >>
> >> > Pastor Frank wrote:
> >> >> "Thommadura" <tommadura@optonline.net> wrote in
message
> >> >> news:48dc7219$0$4885$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >> >>> Pastor Frank wrote:
> >> >>>> "bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote in message
> >> >>>> news:48D87B0C.66748818@netvigator.com...
> >> >>>>> Pastor Frank wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>     False. Christ proven Himself on the cross of
Calvary. Only
you
> >> >>>>>> make
> >> >>>>>> unsupported categorical assertions.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Prove there was ever a cross or a Jesus.
> >> >>>>> You cannot of course, what you rely on is
handmedowns,
> >> >>>>> padded out by your own religio' ambitions and
imaginary 'add
ons'.
> >> >>>>> Sad really
> >> >>>>> Bob
> >> >>>>> Humanist, atheist, realist, sentimentalist, Brit.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>    We have extensive accounts of Christ, yet you harbour
this
id?©e
> >> >>>> fixe that Jesus never existed, citing no authoritative
opinion,
nor
> >> >>>> evidence nor theory, beyond standard atheist doctrine
that is.
> >> >>>>    When will you start evidencing your assertions?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> When are you going to realize that you are wrong.
> >> >>> There are NO mentions of the christ by non-religious sources
> >> >>> contemporary to the christ.
> >> >>    Why would anyone looking for fame and fortune write about a
> >> >>    penniless
> >> >> itinerant preacher with a congregation of 12, but no building,
who
got
> >> >> himself killed for no good reason? Would anyone today bother to
write
> >> >> about such a one, or would he get any mention in the news? I.e.
scores
> >> >> of people claim to be healed at Benny Hinn's gatherings, but how
many
> >> >> historians write about Benny Hinn, or how many of those claiming
> >> >> healings get into the news?
> >> >>    Now prove your point for once!!! "you are wrong"
indeed!!!!!!!
> >> >> Quoting your atheist sources proves nothing.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > But you see - there was no penniless itinerant preacher - it is just
as
> >> > much a con job as Benny Hinn is.
> >> >
> >> > THere still remains not a single mention of the christ contemporary
to
> >> > his time from a non-religious source - and - interestingly - even
from
> >> > other religious sources.
> >> >
> >> > Some of the dead sea scrolls were contemporary to the time of the
> >> > christ -but none mention him.
> >> >
> >> > We have no fragments of the bible NT that date before about 70AD that
> >> > can be dated. We have NO source material at all for any of the bible.
> >> > We have quotes from the christ from Luke and Paul - who say they
never
> >> > saw him - yet - no author of the quotes is mentioned - as is the case
> >> > in most of the bible. We have gospels according to
"whoever" but no
> >> > identified author of most of it.
> >> >
> >> > You are the one claiming that your "fearless leader"
existed.
> >> > However - you have made that up just like you made up your own
religion
> >> > - based on your own definition of your god - and based on the parts
of
> >> > the fabricated bible you choose to include in your belief. You
yourself
> >> > have dismissed parts of the bible as fraud.
> >> >
> >> > It proves one thing - you are just another part of the con.
> >>
> >> Don't even worry about the bible for now.
> >> You seem to think you know all about
> >> what it means for non-believers not to believe in God.
> >>
> >> Do you have any idea what it means
> >> for believers to believe in God?
> >
> > I most certainly do......
> > they have been programmed.
> >
> > We humans are pretty good at it you know.
>
>
> What makes you so sure that
> you are not being deceived constantly?

THere was a time that was the case - but we left religion and gods behind -
so we no longer are- that only leaves YOU being deceived
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monkfish (07.10.2008 01:39)