Re: Alt.coffee is dead; long live alt.coffee (somewhere else)

In <eivp04l45cbj61d0brlhqq4f0qshd0na8f@4ax.com>, on Mon, 21 Apr 2008
10:53:10 -1000, beans@smithfarms.com, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:04:17 GMT, "Colin B."
><cbigam@somewhereelse.shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>Steve Ackman <steve@snip-this.twoloonscoffee.com> wrote:
>>> In <Af4Pj.210218$pM4.26610@pd7urf1no>, on Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:35:28
>>>
>>>  There's growing talk of a UDP (Usenet Death Penalty)
>>> against them.  I don't think one's been imposed in
>>> the last decade or so, but just the fact it's being
>>> discussed is encouraging.
>>
>>That would warm the cockles of my heart. Google is the worst spam source
>>since AOL, back in the worst of the bad old days. I'd like to see them
>>taken OUT! Even better would be if they broke google groups, but that's
>>a bit hopeful, I suspect.

>  OT, I think.  But I have a question.  If I use my gmail.com account
> to send out a multitude of emails to my Farmer's group, is that the
> same thing you are talking about?  I love my gmail.com account.

No the UDP would be all the major news servers
boycotting any feed from google groups and/or
filtering any messages from there.  Those would be
usenet posts with googlegroups.com in the message-ID.

Usenet and e-mail are completely different things.
Google actually takes action (from what I understand)
about people spamming from gmail accounts, but they
seem to almost encourage usenet spam sent from their
servers.  On one of the news-admin groups, there have
been examples of spammers posting over 1100 spams in
a day in ONE group.  That particular scumbag has put
over 6000 spams out in less than a week, yet google
completely ignores complaints.

As someone else said, alt.coffee doesn't have nearly
the spam problem that other groups have... but still,
what spams do get posted almost all get posted through
google groups.
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