Re: Alt.coffee is dead; long live alt.coffee (somewhere else)

On Apr 21, 12:03 pm, be...@smithfarms.com wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:31:01 -0400, "John Heubel"
<jsheu...@yahoo.com>
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> >"Steve Ackman" <st...@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com> wrote in
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> > <SNIP>
> >>  Give me the data.  Period.  Let my software format,
> >> thread, filter, and display it the way I want.  If I
> >> want to ignore certain threads, save others, filter
> >> certain keywords or people, score certain topics
> >> higher or lower than others, I want to be able to
> >> do that.  No web forum has that ability.
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> >>  In today's always-on connections, little thought is
> >> given to the ability to read and write offline, but it's
> >> an important consideration for people on dialup, people
> >> using laptops without hotspots, etc.  You can do that
> >> with newsgroups, but not with the web.
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> >>  In writing a post, I want to use my favorite editor.
> >> Newsreaders often accomodate that (mine does anyway).
> >> Web forums simply can't.
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> >>> It will save my ever having to look at this
> >>> place again and see the ruin it has become, and I suspect I am not the
> >>> only person who would appreciate it.
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> >>  This all sounds amazingly like a post from Ken Fox
> >> a couple/three years ago.
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> >Excellent thoughts.
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> >I mainly lurk, and recently started just scanning some of the titles before
> >deleting when the *stats* posts started showing up stating how the forum was
> >dying.  I started roasting several years back and getting into
> >better/fresher coffee and found this site, and while there was much good
> >info, I personally found some of the posts too elitest.   What I mean by
> >that was some of the attitude behind the posts that came across...if you
> >don't have a Rocky / Silvia combo don't bother...and don't post here since
> >you obviously aren't sophisticated enough....  I know that's overly
> >simplistic but at the time there was no way I could afford to spend that
> >kind of change... on coffee.  I know...heresy. ;o).   I could get that combo
> >now, but I still use the Gran Gaggia I rebuilt (Goodwill $6, but with
> >cracked boiler) and an old Zass grinder.
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> >And I realize that groups where newbs show up with the same questions over
> >and over can get monotonus. rec.crafts.brewing gets newbies all the time.
> >After reading "...Did I ruin my beer?....What mill should I buy?...."
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> >the past 12 years I don't post as often as I used to there, but it's still
> >an enjoyable place to go. Just skip the basic posts for awhile.  But to rant
> >about how bad a group has gotten.   How high-school clique-ish is that!
> >Grow up.  I guess though I may have just skipped most of the bad posts here
> >and may have just wound up being put behind filters and in kill files, but
> >usenet is still a great place to hang out.
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> Yes, I agree with you & Steve.  Read what you want.  There really is
> no investment other than choosing what post interests you and then
> spend those 2 minutes:) or so.  Skip the kindergarteners who bicker.
> Gads, having been near alt.coffee since 1994, this is the natural flow
> of the group.
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> aloha from Kona
> Cea
> roast beans to kona to email
>   farmers of Pure Kona

TWO reasonable voices -- so far
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