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Re: Saruman & Gandalf's ring

In alt.fan.tolkien Christopher Kreuzer <spamgard@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> "Geza Giedke" <mmmgi01@commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> wrote:

> <snip>

> > good point. That Saruman might indeed suspect Gandalf of playing a
> > power game himself would be supported by his answer to Gandalf in the
> > final dialogue in "The Voice of Saruman": "Later, when you have
the
> > keys of Barad-Dur itself and the crowns of the seven kings and have
> > purchased yourself a pair of boots many size the ones you wear today."

> Aha. Thanks for quoting that. It gives me the chance to dust off my pet
> theory about what these "seven kings" are. I once had the crazy idea that
> this might refer to the seven Valar, though other candidates include the
> seven dwarf kings, or seven of the Nazgul. Are there any other
> possibilities?

I have no idea, though I always thought that seven kings of
Middle-Earth (and the Third Age) were meant. Are the seven Valar ever
referred to in this way?

Which kings do we know of? I'm sure only those "on the good side" are
of interest. Then we have:

Kings of Men
Gondor
Anor (or possibly Arthedain, Cardolan and Rhudaur)
Rohan
Dale

Dwaven Kingdoms
Khazad-Dum
Iron Mountains/Erebor

Elven Kingdom
Mirkwood

... it seems we have seven (if we don't count Cardolan/Rhudaur, which
were shortlived, not really of proper lineage and at least the latter
fell to the dark side), though I doubt very much that these were
meant. (especially, since there are likely some Dwarven Kingdoms I've
missed)


regards
Geza



--
Geza Giedke

Max-Planck Institut fuer Quantenoptik, Garching

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