GRNC Alert 06-24-08: SB 2081 - They're Waiting For You To Sleep
Von: R. LaCasse (mk2-acp@us-mail.info) [Profil]
Datum: 25.06.2008 05:52
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Subject: GRNC Alert 06-24-08: SB 2081 - They're Waiting For You To Sleep From: nyreg@teap.bet Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:38:48 -0600 Grass Roots North Carolina(r), P.O. Box 10684, Raleigh, NC 27605 919-664-8565, www.grnc.org, GRNC Alert Hotline: (919) 562-4137 GRNC Alert 06-24-08: SB 2081 - They're Waiting For You To Sleep The anti-gunners in the Senate know you are watching, so they are doing what they do best - they are waiting for you to go back to sleep. Will you oblige them or will you stand your ground and keep your watch? We will recap you on this bill and actions to take and also would like to share with you an incident that happened to one of our citizens up in Virginia. Apparently some of their police did not get the memo about reciprocity. As we have been informing you over the last few days, SB 2081 - designed by Attorney General Roy Cooper to add thousands of North Carolinians who pose NO threat to anyone to the list of prohibited people - is a stealth attack on your rights. Please contact Attorney General ROY COOPER (919-716-6400, fax: 919-716-6750) and express your views on his creation. Please contact your senator and remind him that it was the Attorney General's campus safety task force that came up with the bill and that it was the Attorney General himself who stood before the Senate Judiciary Committee to defend it. Attorney General Touts 80,000 Barred From Buying Guns Despite assertions from GRNC and others that serious flaws reside in the bill, SB 2081 passed through the Senate Judiciary Committee in a 5-4 vote. The bill now resides in the Senate Committee on Appropriations/Base Budget. Standing before the committee to defend his bill was none other than NC Attorney General ROY COOPER (D, GRNC 0-star). If you wonder what he is after, consider his statement that in 2006, Virginia began reporting not only people committed to mental health facilities, but also those remanded by courts to OUTPATIENT care. Said Cooper, in 2006 North Carolina reported (and therefore barred from owning guns) "only" 440 names to the National Instant Check System. Meanwhile, by adding outpatients, Virginia reported...**80,000.** 80,000 BARRED FROM BUYING GUNS That's right: 80,000 PEOPLE BARRED FROM BUYING GUNS, and that is FROM JUST ONE STATE. And given that Virginia's population is smaller than North Carolina's, under Cooper's scheme an even greater number could find themselves saddled with a "firearms disability" under federal law. VIRGINIA POLICE NEED LAW LESSON This in from the Virginia Civilian Defense League: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Three Fairfax County police officers prove the Keystone Kops are alive and well We haven't had any issues with the Fairfax County police in quite a while now. I have found them to be one of the best run police agencies in Virginia. However, three officers tarnished that image last week when they unlawfully arrested a North Carolina resident who was legally carrying a handgun and had a North Carolina CHP. Hold on tight - this is a weird story. The gun owner was pulled over for running through a red light, a charge which the gun owner disputes. The gun owner, believing that he had to disclose he was lawfully armed as they do in North Carolina, dutifully told the officer he had a NC CHP and was indeed armed. The officer seemed to ignore the statement, but very shortly two more patrol units pulled up. The next thing the gun owner knew he is in a "felony stop" mode. He was asked to walk backwards towards the officers, who then disarmed and handcuffed him. While trying to unloaded his gun, THEY DROPPED IT ONTO THE ROAD! The two officers and a SERGEANT then proceeded to tell him that he was under arrested for: 1. Having hollow point bullets, which they claimed were illegal in Virginia (!) 2. Taking a loaded gun across the state line, which the gun owner was told was a FELONY (!) 3. Having a concealed gun that the police said he couldn't have since he was from North Carolina (!!) His car and gun were impounded and he was taken off to a magistrate. The magistrate looked at the charges and told the police officers that they had just made a false arrest. The officers pointed out the possession of hollow point bullets. The magistrate asked, "are they teflon coated?" "No," replied on of the officers. "Then they are legal." Trying to find something that would stick and justify the false arrest, one of the officers said, "We couldn't verify that his North Carolina permit is valid." The magistrate looked at the permit, noticed the phone number on the back where one can call to verify the permit, called the number, and within a few minutes found out the permit was indeed valid. The gun owner was ordered to be released. After being released from custody, the gun owner was given a hard time by another officer about getting his gun back, but he did finally get it back. If all of that isn't bad enough, the arresting officer went ahead and gave the gun owner a ticket for the alleged offense of running a red light! In essence, with that brilliant move, the officer was practically BEGGING the gun owner to PLEASE sue Fairfax Count for the false arrest! I have already talked to my high-level contact with the Fairfax County PD about this entire situation and the gun owner has filed a formal complaint. In the past, Fairfax County PD has been very good when such internal investigations are required. Now we will wait and see what happens. What is clear is that Fairfax County PD needs to educate its officers on: 1. Possession of hollow point bullets 2. Reciprocity laws 3. Lawful carriage of firearms across state lines 4. Safe gun handling (a few years ago unsafe gun handling by an officer cause a gun to discharge, killing an unarmed, handcuffed man) [Note: GRNC will keep you posted on further updates.] IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED Whether or not you have previously sent a message to legislators, SEND ONE NOW. The bill has now moved to a different committee. Not only do they need to hear from you, so does Attorney General Cooper. * SEND A MESSAGE TO LEGISLATORS by going to http://grnc.org/alerts/email6_16_08.htm. The automated e-mail will then go to all members of the Senate Appropriations/Base Budget Committee as well as to Attorney General Cooper. * CALL THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AT 919-716-6725 and tell Attorney General Roy Cooper to stop attacking the rights of people who neither have a federal firearms disability, nor are a threat to anyone. CALL YOUR STATE SENATOR: Tell them SB 2081 is a power grab that will saddle tens of thousands with a federal firearms disability. To identify your state senator, go to: http://www.grnc.org/contact_reps.htm. DELIVER THIS MESSAGE Dear Senator: SB 2081, "NICS Reporting/Restoration" has now been referred to the Committee on Appropriations/Base Budget. If implemented, the bill will result in thousands of people who are a danger to no one being barred from owning guns. The recently passed "National Instant Check System (NICS) Improvement Act" requires states to report involuntary commitments to mental institutions for the purpose of gun purchase background checks. By insisting that people remanded to OUTPATIENT care be included among those reported to the National Instant Check System (NICS), Attorney General Roy Cooper is twisting federal law to suit his needs and, in all likelihood, violating federal law. To report outpatient commitments to NICS, the Attorney General is relying on a May, 2007 letter from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives which says: "adjudication that a person was mentally ill AND A DANGER TO HIMSELF OR OTHERS would result in a Federal firearms disability, WHETHER THE COURT-ORDERED TREATMENT WAS ON AN INPATIENT OR OUTPATIENT BASIS..." . What Cooper fails to say, however, is that in North Carolina, people remanded to OUTPATIENT treatment are by statutory definition NOT DANGEROUS. Specifically, NC General Statute 122C-263(d)(1) permits commitment to OUTPATIENT treatment only for people "capable of surviving safely in the community..." By contrast, under NCGS 122C-263(d)(2), DANGEROUS people must be committed to INPATIENT treatment in a mental health facility. Equally disingenuous are attempts by the Attorney General to justify the bill based on U.S. v. B.H., 466 F.Supp.2d 1139 (2006). This case law - from an obscure court in Iowa, meaning it is not binding precedent in North Carolina - tortures the English language by lumping OUTPATIENT treatment into the federal stipulation that those "committed to a mental institution" be barred from owning guns. Apparently, for both the Iowa court and Roy Cooper, English is a second language. Dangerously unstable people should be committed to mental institutions. People who are NOT a danger to themselves or others should suffer no curtailment of their civil liberties. I strongly urge you to oppose SB 2081. Respectfully, A Concerned Voter CONTACT THESE STATE SENATORS If your Senator is among this list (you may find yours at: http://www.grnc.org/contact_reps.htm) please CALL that Senator. You may find individual contact information by going here: http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/members/memberList.pl?sChamber=Senate and clicking on that person's name. Sen. Charles W. Albertson, Sen. Charlie S. Dannelly, Sen. Linda Garrou, Sen. Tom Apodaca, Sen. Bob Atwater, Sen. Doug Berger, Sen. Philip E. Berger, Sen. Stan Bingham, Sen. Harris Blake, Sen. Julia Boseman, Sen. Andrew C. Brock, Sen. Harry Brown, Sen. Peter S. Brunstetter, Sen. Daniel G. Clodfelter, Sen. Janet Cowell, Sen. Walter H. Dalton, Sen. Katie G. Dorsett, Sen. Don East, Sen. Tony Foriest, Sen. James Forrester, Sen. Steve Goss, Sen. Malcolm Graham, Sen. Kay R. Hagan, Sen. Fletcher L. Hartsell, Jr., Sen. David W. Hoyle, Sen. Neal Hunt, Sen. Jim Jacumin, Sen. Clark Jenkins, Sen. Ed Jones, Sen. John H. Kerr III, Sen. 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- R. LaCasse (26.06.2008 06:48)
