Re: REV. JIMMY OBMAM'S ANSWER TO EVERY PROBLEM: TAX AND TRANSFER WEALTH

On Jun 13, 1:15 pm, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
> Constantine wrote:
> > socialists.
>
> You are very afraid.
>
> What's a socialist?

The concept of socialism is generally over the heads of most
Americans. We do not have the brightest people,  thinking for
themselves, here in America and the word alone frightens them

Ignorant Americans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6W3T7MTh4M

George Carlin on ignorant Americans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlXoIVLJWCY

This is how stupid people are in the United States
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SX3f2KmOiI&feature=related

Most Americans have no Idea and yet are the beneficiaries of
socialistic policies throughout their lives and are demanding more of
it without realizing that is is socialism at work.. Example: free
universal health care

"The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in
my opinion, the real source of the evil. We see before us a huge
community of producers the members of which are unceasingly striving
to deprive each other of the fruits of their collective labor—not by
force, but on the whole in faithful compliance with legally
established rules. In this respect, it is important to realize that
the means of production—that is to say, the entire productive capacity
that is needed for producing consumer goods as well as additional
capital goods—may legally be, and for the most part are, the private
property of individuals."

---Albert Einstein

It is immoral to use private property in order to alleviate the
horrible evils that result from the institution of private property.
It is both immoral and unfair.

Under Socialism all this will, of course, be altered. There will be no
people living in fetid dens and fetid rags, and bringing up unhealthy,
hungerpinched children in the midst of impossible and absolutely
repulsive surroundings. The security of society will not depend, as it
does now, on the state of the weather. If a frost comes we shall not
have a hundred thousand men out of work, tramping about the streets in
a state of disgusting misery, or whining to their neighbours for alms,
or crowding round the doors of loathsome shelters to try and secure a
hunch of bread and a night's unclean lodging. Each member of the
society will share in the general prosperity and happiness of the
society, and if a frost comes no one will practically be anything the
worse.

Upon the other hand, Socialism itself will be of value simply because
it will lead to Individualism.

The soul of man under Socialism
by Oscar Wilde

This is America where most conservative Americans are violently
opposed to socialism in any form and want everytning privatized for
profit even if they receive none of the profits. Yet, there is no such
thing as pure capitalism or pure socialism anyplace in the modern
world.

Socialism in America

Non-socialist organizations, in America,are far behind, and have much
catching-up to do.

Socialism in America is alive, well, and growing. Aided by such
influential Congressmen as John Conyers, Ranking Member of the House
Judicial Committee, David Bonior, the pit-bull-dog who successfully
whipped Newt, Maxine Waters, the President's outspoken defender in the
impeachment debates, and nearly 60 other Representatives, socialism is
advancing in America behind the "Progressive" label. Here are a few
excerpts taken directly from the web page of the Democratic Socialists
of America. (Italicized emphasis provided)

"The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is the largest socialist
organization in the United States, and the principal U.S. affiliate of
the Socialist International. DSA's members are building progressive
movements for social change while establishing an openly socialist
presence in American communities and politics.

"At the root of our socialism is a profound commitment to democracy,
as means and end. We are activists committed not only to extending
political democracy but to demanding democratic empowerment in the
economy, in gender relations, and in culture. Democracy is not simply
one of our political values but our means of restructuring society.
Our vision is of a society in which people have a real voice in the
choices and relationships that affect the entirety of our lives. We
call this vision democratic socialism - a vision of a more free,
democratic and humane society.

We are socialists because we reject an international economic order
sustained by private profit, alienated labor, race and gender
discrimination, environmental destruction, and brutality and violence
in defense of the status quo.
We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane international
social order based both on democratic planning and market mechanisms
to achieve equitable distribution of resources, meaningful work, a
healthy environment, sustainable growth, gender and racial equality,
and non-oppressive relationships."

Here is what "Liberty" looks like to a socialist:

"A democratic commitment to a vibrant pluralist life assumes the need
for a democratic, responsive, and representative government to
regulate the market, protect the environment, and ensure a basic level
of equality and equity for each citizen. In the 21st century, such
regulation will increasingly occur through international, multilateral
action. But while a democratic state can protect individuals from
domination by inordinately powerful, undemocratic transnational
corporations, people develop the social bonds that render life
meaningful only through cooperative, voluntary relationships.
Promoting such bonds is the responsibility of socialists and the
government alike.

"The social welfare programs of government have been for the most part
positive, if partial, responses to the genuine social needs of the
great majority of Americans. The dismantling of such programs by
conservative and corporate elites in the absence of any alternatives
will be disastrous. Abandoning schools, health care, and housing, for
example, to the control of an unregulated free market magnifies the
existing harsh realities of inequality and injustice."

The action agenda posted on the socialists' web site very closely
parallels Agenda 21, and the recommendations of the President's
Council on Sustainable Development. The web site boasts the creation
of the "Progressive Caucus" in Congress, as well as the coalition that
is working to promote the socialist agenda in Congress.
Congressional Members of the
Progressive Caucus

Rep Earl Hilliard (AL-07)
Rep Eni Faleomavaega (AS-AL)
Rep Ed Pastor (AZ-02)
Rep Lynn C Woolsey (CA-06)
Rep George Miller (CA-07)
Rep Nancy Pelosi (CA-08)
Rep Fortney "Pete" Stark (CA-13)
Rep Henry A. Waxman (CA-29)
Rep Xavier Becerra (CA-30)
Rep Julian C. Dixon (CA-32)
Rep Esteban Edward Torres (CA-34)
Rep Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Rep George E. Brown (CA-42)
Rep Bob Filner (CA-50)
Rep Diane DeGette (CO-01)
Rep Eleanor Holmes Norton (DC-AL)
Rep Corrine Brown (FL-03)
Rep Carrie P. Meek (FL-17)
Rep Alcee L. Hastings (FL-23)
Rep Cynthia A. McKinney (GA-04)
Rep John Lewis (GA-05)
Rep Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)
Rep Patsy Mink (HI-02)
Rep Jesse Jackson (IL-02)
Rep Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
Rep Danny Davis (IL-07)
Rep Lane Evans (IL-17)
Rep Julia Carson (IN-10)
Rep John Olver (MA-01)
Rep Jim McGovern (MA-03)
Rep Barney Frank (MA-04)
Rep John Tierney (MA-06)
Rep David Bonior (MI-10)
Rep Lynn N. Rivers (MI-13)
Rep John Conyers (MI-14)
Rep Bennie G. Thompson (MS-02)
Rep Melvin L. Watt (NC-12)
Rep Donald Payne (NJ-10)
Rep Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
Rep Major Owens (NY-11)
Rep Nydia M. Velazquez (NY-12)
Rep Charles Rangel (NY-15)
Rep Maurice Hinchey (NY-26)
Rep John LaFalce (NY-29)
Rep Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
Rep Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)
Rep Louis Stokes (OH-11)
Rep Sherrod Brown (OH-13)
Rep Elizabeth Furse (OR-01)
Rep Peter A. DeFazio (OR-04)
Rep Chaka Fattah (PA-02)
Rep William Coyne (PA-14)
Rep Carlos A. Romero-Barcelo (PR-AL)
Rep Robert C. Scott (VA-03)
Rep Bernard Sanders (VT-AL)
Rep James A. McDermott (WA-07)



Progressive Coalition supporting socialist agenda Americans for
Democratic Action
Campaign for America's Future

Campaign for New Priorities

Center for the Advancement of Public Policy

Center of Concern

Coalition on Human Needs

Demilitarization for Democracy

Development GAP

50 Years is Enough Network

Friends of the Earth

Fund for New Priorities in America

Institute for Policy Studies

Institute for Women's Policy Research

International Labor Rights Fund

National Jobs for All Coalition

National Organization for Women

National Priorities Project

NETWORK: A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby

Peace Action

Preamble Center for Public Policy

Public Citizen, email: Public Citizen

Stakeholders Alliance

United Electrical, Radio and Machine Workers of America

United for a Fair Economy

Washington Chapter Alliance for Democracy

Working Assets

Women, Law and Development

National Council of La Raza

The Campaign for Health Security

Leadership Conference on Civil Rights

Friends Committee on National Legislation

Center for Defense Information

Council for a Livable World
Citizens for Tax Justice
U.S. Campaign to Ban Landmines

Amnesty International

Human Rights Watch

Americans for a Sustainable Economy

National Education Association

USA Network for Habitat II

Catholic Charities

National Council of Negro Women

Center for Law and Social Policy

Witness for Peace

Children's Defense Fund

Child Welfare League

National Black Child Development Institute

Urban League

Economic Policy Institute

Brookings Institute

Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare

Defenders of Wildlife

Veterans for Peace

National Rainbow Coalition

AFL-CIO

U.S. Commission on Civil Rights

UNITE

Unitarian Universalist Service Committee

National Association of Public Hospitals

National Council of Senior Citizens

Long-Term Care Campaign

Consumer's Union

Center for Responsive Politics

Latin American Working Group

Public Campaign



This particular coalition consists of social organizations that work
hand-in-hand with other coalitions such as BIONET, CITNET, ECONET,
PEACENET, the Climate Action Network (CAN), and others. All are
connected through IGC-APC (Institute for Global Communications, and
the Association of Progressive Communications). Virtually all of these
organizations, including the Democratic Socialists of America, have
web sites hosted by IGC-APC.

The policy gains that have been made in recent years on both the
international and domestic fronts are largely the result of the
communications capability of these organizations. Freedom.org was
conceived more than five years ago to provide similar communications
capability to organizations that are not socialists. The Property
Rights Congress will be pioneering that new capability. Non-socialist
organizations are far behind, and have much catching-up to do.

"We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if mankind is
to survive."
Why Socialism?
By Albert Einstein
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/Einstein.htm
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