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BIBLES AND CONGRESS

Von: buckeye (buckeyeelo@nospam.net) [Profil]
Datum: 27.05.2010 21:28
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BIBLES AND CONGRESS

CONGRESS PAYING FOR BIBLES

Endorsement of an American Bible

A critical lack of Bibles in the states led to the involvement of
the Continental Congress in 1777 to solve the problem. No edition of the
Bible in the English language had been published in the colonies before
Independence. As a result of the war, ministers experienced a lack of
Bibles for their services, causing Dr: Patrick Allison, pastor of the First
Presbyterian Church in Baltimore, and a large number of ministers from
diverse faiths to petition Congress to do something to remedy the shortage.
The petition prayed that, "unless timely care be used to prevent it, we
shall not have Bibles for our Schools, and families, and for the publick
Worship of God in our Churches. We therefore think it our Duty to our
Country and to the Churches of Christ to lay this design before this
honourable house, humbly requesting that under your care, and by your
encouragement, a copy of the holy Bible may be printed, so as to be sold
nearly as cheap as the Common Bibles, formerly imported from Britain and
Ireland, were sold."

On 11 September 1777 Congress appointed a committee of John Adams,
Daniel Roberdeau, and Jonathan Bayard Smith to look into the matter. That
same day the committee returned this report:

The committee to whom the memorial of Dr. Allison and others was
referred, report, "That they have conferred fully with the printers, &c.,
in this city, and are of opinion, that the proper types for printing the
Bible are not to be had in this country, and that the paper cannot be
procured, but with such difficulties and subject to such casualties, as
render any dependence on it altogether improper: that to import types for
the purpose of setting up an entire edition of the bible, and to strike off
30,000 copies, with paper, binding &c. will cost £10,272 to, which must be
advanced by Congress, to be reimbursed by the sale of the books: that, in
the opinion of the committee, considerable difficulties will attend the
procuring the types and paper; that afterwards, the risque of importing
them will considerably enhance the cost, and that the calculations are
subject to such uncertainty in the present state of affairs, that Congress
cannot much rely on them: that the use of the Bible is so universal, and
its importance so great, that your committee refer the above to the
consideration of Congress, and if Congress shall not think it expedient to
order the importation of types and paper, the committee recommend that
Congress will order the committee of commerce to import 20,ooo Bibles from
Holland, Scotland, or elsewhere, into the different ports of the states of'
the Union."

In voting on this report, New Hampshire, Massachusetts,
Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Georgia were in
favor of acting on the recommendation to import, at Congress's expense,
20,000 Bibles; New York, Delaware, North Carolina, South Carolina,
Virginia, and Maryland opposed such action. Despite the affirmative vote,
the margin of one vote led Congress to table the matter, and no final
action was taken.

[snip]

In the meantime, Robert Aitken (1734 1802), a patriotic
Philadelphia printer and a Presbyterian elder, had proceeded on his own
initiative and published an American edition of the Bible. In January 1781
he petitioned Congress for an endorsement of his project and for financial
support. He received the former but not the latter." Congress's endorsement
of the Bible without allocating funds for the project is indeed a strong
evidence that Congress was deeply committed to the importance of religion
for the new republic, but equally unwilling, for whatever reason, to become
financially involved.
Although Congress gave no financial aid to the project, the
Pennsylvania legislature advanced $700 to Aitken to complete the work."
(SOURCE OF INFORMATION: Religion and the Continental
Congress, 1774-1789, Contributions to original Intent. Derek H. Davis.
Oxford University Press, (2000) pp 144-146)
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James Madison 'pocket" vetoed the following:
"An act for the free importation of Stereotype plates, and to encourage the
printing and gratuitous distribution of the Scriptures by the bible
societies within the United States." Not approved.
SEE: Some of The First Official Meanings Assigned to The Establishment
Clause
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/madvetos.htm

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David Barton Lies About Chris Rodda - Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIFSY_BjxsY

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You are invited to check out the following:

The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm

American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm

The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html

[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]

HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/

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. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning.  Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic."  New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
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James Veverka wrote:
One of the ways to counter the attack on American Constitutional principles
by the religious right is to address their revisionism, misinformation and
distortions.

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USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote

"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"

That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.

It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.

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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html

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