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Re: iframe > remote url > load in new window

On Sep 6, 8:34 am, dorayme <doraymeRidT...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> In article <fblt2r$is...@aioe.org>,
>
>  "mrcakey" <nos...@spamispoo.com> wrote:
> > >> Weird! My Firefox preferences seem to match those of my colleagues FF
> > >> preferences, but her browser displays the link within a new window as
> > >> it is meant to.
>
> > > You do not say what her prefs are or yours?
>
> You still are not saying what your prefs are set at?
>
>
>
> > >> What is the particular setting I should be looking for? And why is
> > >> _blank evil? What should I use instead?
>
> > > I have:
>
> > > <http://netweaver.com.au/test/pics/ff_prefs.png>
>
> > > I may have also downloaded an optional panel called Tab Mix Plus
> > > Options. Google up for it. you might like it.
>
> > > About _blank. If you are an author, try to avoid it because it is
> > > too presumptive to think you know better than the person who is
> > > looking at your webpage. If he wants to see a link in a new page,
> > > he has the powers right there in his browser. On a Mac, eg, you
> > > can simply control or right click and a little context menu comes
> > > up and you can choose how to open a link,...
>
> > > On principle, the user knows best. Best not to assume he is a
> > > complete schmuck, he will resent you for it if he is not. He
> > > might very well be irritated to see windows opening unexpectedly.
>
> > My family, who are pretty bright, and nearly all my friends who are mos
tly
> > educated to Masters and PhD level, need to be told everytime I visit ho
w to
> > use right click.  Maybe you have a site oriented towards techies, but I
> > think you're being very generous to your users.  IMHO, I don't think th
ere's
> > anything inherently evil in forcing certain incidental pages, e.g. T&C'
s, in
> > another window/tab.
>
> I am not urging a blanket ban on trying to force extra windows. I
> say "try" because you will not always succeed in getting what you
> might imagine as an author. I have some browsers set to open
> _blanks in tabs. (At least this imposes an order and limits my
> irritability when it is mandated for no particular sound reason).
> There could be some cases where it is appropriate. There is even
> some cases where I actually find javascript pop ups very useful.
> My tone is one of caution on this, not Talibanic edicting
> (followed, of course, by stoning and public flogging and ugly
> satisfaction).
>
> About your audience and knowledge of mice and commands and
> general browser skills, it may pay to look more empirically
> rather than intuitively at the issue of which is more confusing
> to the unskilled, windows popping up on a screen that obscure
> other windows and calling for a level of knowledge of window
> management on the part of the user or simply relying on the skill
> of using the back button or clicking a navigational link on the
> *one* page. Anyway, think about it and no more abstract
> discussion, we need cases to continue.
>
> About my sites, no, you are mistaken, I speak to the downtrodden,
> the lonely, the poor, the refugees, the uneducated. It is
> impossible not to feel compassion. My problem is trying to
> concentrate while crying my heart out. My family, with only one
> or two jewel-like exceptions are all banged up in prison for life
> for being serial public nuisances.
>
> --
> dorayme

Dorayme,

Thanks for your breakdown on _blank, but I have to agree with Johns
argument. If they can't figure it out, the web is not for them. As a
designer, I spend half of my time considering usability options, and
personally do no think that a link to an external site opening in a
new window is an unexpected surprise when surfing the net. Thanks for
your caution though. I totally understand how incapable some people
are when it comes to the internet and computers for that matter.

As for my preferences:

Mac G4 - OS X 10.4.10
Firefox  2.0.0.6

Tabs > (All settings listed indicate checked options)
· New pages should be opened in: a new tab
· Warn me when opening multiple tabs might slow down Firefox

Content >
· Block pop-up windows
· Load images automatically
· Enable JavaScript
· Enable Java

They seem to be the only options that are relevant to my problem. But
please, do let me know if I'm missing something.

Thanks,

Marc

P.S - Sorry for the delay in replys, I'm on the southern end of the
globe.

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