Re: Processing Oil Shale Squanders Water
Von: calderhome@yahoo.com (calderhome@yahoo.com) [Profil]
Datum: 06.07.2008 18:55
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Datum: 06.07.2008 18:55
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In-situ is the only economical way to extract oil from shale, and it will not be so water intensive that it cannot be done responsibly. We need that oil, but we have to extract the oil in the correct way. I do not know of anyone advocating the old fashioned dig-up and cook method. Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming have massive oil shale deposits that are suitable for extraction using newly developed "in-situ" (in ground and in place) oil recovery techniques. Shell Oil physicist Harold Vinegar believes that by the year 2015 oil can be extracted from shale for about $30 per barrel. Colorado alone has massive shale reserves reported to contain more oil potential than the entire Middle East did before the British began drilling in Iran in 1908. Biofuels are the worst water hogs and they provide little real energy gain in return. Biofuel crop production causes water shortages because irrigation water is taken away from our shrinking supplies of safe drinking and agricultural water. There is not enough salt free water in the world to grow biofuel crops and still provide essential utility water for our homes and to grow sufficient food for humans to survive. It takes 9,000 gallons of water to produce just 1 gallon of biodiesel made from soybeans, so we obviously need to save our very limited supplies of ground water to grow food, not fuel. In California water is now so precious that some farmers want to sell water instead of food, and water rationing is being considered as officials fear a long term drought. Even without biofuel production, we are turning vast areas of land into desert every year through loss of topsoil due to farming for essential food. The hoax of biofuels may be self-destructing! Newspaper story says 16 ethanol plants have filed for bankruptcy and more will file next year! "US Insane Ethanol Biofuels Policies Cause of Food Crisis" - http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=53 37 16 Ethanol Plants File Bankruptcy The US Ethanol Industry Is In Distress. The U.S. ethanol industry is in trouble and can expect to see a rash of bankruptcies and dismantling of at least some production, according to a specialist who helps companies in distress. Alex Moglia, president of Moglia Advisors based in the Chicago area, said he knows of at least 16 ethanol companies that are filing for bankruptcy, and there will be at least two to three times that number filing within the next year. The weakness of the U.S. dollar makes it possible for foreign investors to acquire ethanol plants "at a deep discount," he said. "They can buy as low as 20 or 30 cents on the dollar," Moglia said. "That should scare the hell out of anyone in the biofuels industry. I've worked with plants that are incomplete, others that can't offer profitably so they've all shut down. This will shake out most of small- and mid-sized players. Larger players will survive because they have buying power." More ethanol producers will continue to file bankruptcy, he said, because of high feedstock costs and a "limited upside flexibility in terms of how much you can sell ethanol for." "The demand for ethanol is not there," Moglia said. "The same thing happening to ethanol is happening in the biodiesel business. It will be the Wal-Mart-ization of the ethanol industry. It's just a mess." Peiffer said many ethanol plants are and will be folding because "the business model they were built on doesn't work." Farmers and their cooperatives have either borrowed money or pledged their land as collateral in building ethanol plants, he said. For every 10 ethanol and/or biodiesel plants "you read about in the media, there are probably 50 to 100 others that are in financial difficulty and are contemplating shutdown," Moglia said. Since ethanol production is mandated by the federal government, he said they are already "operating outside free-market fundamentals. Ethanol Tariffs An Economic Failure Ethanol Producer Magazine is reporting Brazil launches campaign to remove ethanol tariff . The Brazilian Sugarcane Industry Association is launching a public relations campaign on the Fourth of July designed to encourage the American public to pressure the U.S. Congress into removing the 54 cent ethanol import tariff. The 2008 farm bill extended the tariff, designed to support an emerging U.S. ethanol industry and to prevent foreign ethanol producers from benefiting from American subsidies, through 2010. The Are We There Yet? campaign, which consists of an interactive Web site and television ads, is supported by various U.S. food and meat processing companies. The association chose to launch its campaign on the Fourth of July holiday because it's one of America's busiest travel holidays. “Americans are being denied an opportunity to save money at the pump,” said Joel Velasco, chief representative for UNICA. “There is a solution that could have an immediate impact on [the] price at the pump – lifting the tariff on imported ethanol.” A World Bank Report suggests Biofuels behind food price hikes. Biofuels have caused world food prices to increase by 75 percent, according to the findings of an unpublished World Bank report published in The Guardian newspaper on Friday. The report's author, a senior World Bank economist, assessed that contrary to claims by US President George W. Bush, increased demand from India and China has not been the cause of rising food prices. Without the increase in biofuels, global wheat and maize stocks would not have declined appreciably and price increases due to other factors would have been moderate," the report said. __________________ Barack Obama voted for turning mountains of our own precious food into water contaminated, low energy ethanol fuel that is a financial rip- off and a substantial cause of food price inflation. Barack Obama does not have a clue about economics, science, or mathematics, and he is irrationally is trying to vilify the very people who can give us lower priced gasoline if we only let them. Oil price increases have not shrunk the human food supply, but biofuel production has. The more biofuels we produce, the less food we have to eat, because we grow biofuel crops, even switchgrass, using the same land, water, fertilizer, farm equipment, and labor we use to grow food. Biofuel production accelerates global warming, creates water shortages, and erodes topsoil. A new study says biofuels from cellulose sources, such as switchgrass, wood chips, crop waste, etc., will never be cost effective. See biofuel facts and better alternatives, see - http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html Christopher Calder[ Auf dieses Posting antworten ]
