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Re: South Ossetia Breaks Away From Georgia -- Putin Uses Force To Help The Rebellion

Von: Jesus Tomb (rtrrt@sdf.lonestar.org) [Profil]
Datum: 09.08.2008 20:44
Message-ID: <b55958c7-a8e7-4ff9-ae21-40eb147b0fee@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>
Newsgroup: talk.politics.misc alt.fan.rush-limbaugh alt.politics.republicans alt.impeach.bush alt.politics.bush
On Aug 8, 2:39 pm, "Winston Smith, American Patriot"
<FranzKa...@Oceania.WhiteHouse.GOV> wrote:
> Ethnic Russians are going to have to learn that when they move to another
> country, they become PART of that country.
>
> They can't say, "we're going to take the land where we live and annex it
> to Russia."
>
> Imagine the Mexicans along the Rio Grande (north side of it) saying,
> "We're going to take this part of the United States and make it part of
> Mexico.  Problems?"
>
> ========
>
> Putin Says `War Has Started,' Georgia Claims Invasion (Update1)
>
> By Henry Meyer and Ryan Chilcote
>
> Aug. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said ``war has
> started'' in the breakaway region of SouthOssetiawhile Georgia accused
> Russia of ``a well-planned invasion'' and appealed to world leaders for
> help.
>
> Russian ``volunteers'' are pouring over the border to help defend SouthOssetiafrom
Georgian forces, Putin told U.S. President George W. Bush in
> Beijing today, according to Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov.
>
> Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili accused Russia of ``full-blown
> military aggression'' after civilians died in aerial bombings and wide-
> spread fighting in and around the disputed region. The country of 4.6
> million people is fighting ``to secure its borders,'' Saakashvili told
> Bloomberg Television.
>
> The U.S., European Union and NATO all called on both sides to end
> hostilities. The ruble dropped the most against the dollar in 8 1/2 years
> and Russian stocks tumbled today on concern the conflict will worsen.
>
> SouthOssetia, which has a population of about 70,000 and is less than
> half the size of Kosovo, broke away from Georgia in the early 1990s and
> now is a de facto independent state with Russian peacekeepers and economic
> support. Georgia, a U.S. ally that wants to join the North Atlantic Treaty
> Organization, accuses Russia of stoking tensions in SouthOssetiaand
> another separatist region, Abkhazia.
>
> ``We will not allow the death of our compatriots to go unpunished,''
> Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, 42, told state television after reports
> that Georgian troops had shelled a Russian barracks and checkpoint and
> killed soldiers. ``The guilty will get the punishment they deserve.''
>
> `Very Hot'
>
> Saakashvili, 40, said Russia amassed troops for months on its northern
> border before fighter jets entered Georgian airspace overnight and bombed
> the towns of Gori and Kareli near SouthOssetia. The Russian government
> earlier denied bombing and accused Georgia of ``unleashing a dirty,
> reckless scheme.''
>
> ``There are so many claims and counter-claims that it's impossible to know
> who started it,'' said James Nixey, manager of the Russia and Eurasia
> Program at the Royal Institute of International Affairs, a research
> institute based in London. ``Both sides have been antagonistic and easy to
> antagonize. It's a cold war that's suddenly gotten very hot.''
>
> Georgia last month increased the size of its military to 37,000 soldiers
> and today Saakashvili called up reservists and urged the nation to defend
> ``every meter'' of land. Russia has a standing army of about 1.1 million.
>
> Tanks, Warplanes
>
> Agence France-Press reported Russian tanks heading over the border to
> SouthOssetiafrom the Russian region of NorthOssetiaat about 3:30 p.m.
> Moscow time. Interfax reported at about the same time that Russian
> warplanes were bombing Georgian targets.
>
> ``Fighting continues,'' Russian Major General Marat Kulakhmetov, commander
> of Russia's peacekeeping forces in SouthOssetia, said by mobile phone.
> The peacekeepers have suffered casualties, although it's too early to say
> how many, he said.
>
> Georgia is a key link in a U.S.-backed ``southern energy corridor'' that
> links the Caspian Sea region with world markets, bypassing Russia, the
> world's biggest energy producer. Two pipelines pass through the country
> linking Azerbaijan and Turkey.
>
> The BP Plc-led Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline, which has been closed
> since Aug. 5 due to an explosion in Turkey, runs about 100 kilometers
> south of the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali.
>
> The most recent violence in the region erupted on Aug. 1, when SouthOssetiasaid
Georgian shelling of the regional capital Tskhinvali claimed
> six lives. Georgia said South Ossetian forces sparked the fighting.
>
> ``The conflict might be short and hot, but my sense is that neither party
> wants a prolonged conflict,'' said Michael Denison, associate fellow at
> London-based research group Chatham House and a professor of international
> security at the University of Leeds.
>
> --
> The real danger to the future of humanity is the preference
> for surrendering to fear, superstition, and faith
> in absolutist belief systems, and so to submit to these
> willingly and to the control of those demagogues who
> make use of these, rather than preferring
> to reason with one's own mind.
>
> http://mavigozler.awardspace.info/

South Ossetia minority conflict as predicted (Chiron close-up,
Eclipse). Now we can expect Chinese minorities to rise as they always
did. Russia and Georgia have a problem and NATO is not disinterested.
When we predicted war in Russia due to minorities for the eclipse, it
probably sounded too eccentric: here we have it. Gori is on flame.
http://lulu.com/astrology

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