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E&hl=en-GB bill page <magicbilly384@msn.com> has sent you the following web link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_t ... ian's_Code The Wikimedia Foundation's 2009 steward election has started. Please vote. [Hide] [Help us with translations!] Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Breaking the Magician's Code) Jump to: navigation, search Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed Title card from the first episode. Subsequent episodes had a number after "REVEALED." Format Reality Documentary Starring Mitch Pileggi (narrator) Val Valentino (Masked Magician) Country of origin United States No. of episodes 5 in original series, 13 in new series Production Running time 1 hour Broadcast Original channel FOX Network Original run November 24, 1997 – October 29, 1998 Breaking the Magicians' Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed is a series of television shows in which the methods behind magic tricks and illusions are explained. In its original incarnation there were four shows broadcast in 1997 and 1998 on the FOX Network in the US, and on Sky and ITV in the UK. Subsequently a new series of thirteen shows is being broadcast by MyNetworkTV in the US and on ITV in the UK. Contents [hide] 1 The Original Series 2 Subsequent Specials 3 2008 Series Revival 4 External links [edit] The Original Series The series is made by production company Nash Entertainment. The first four specials featured incognito magician Val Valentino as the Masked Magician, who performed large-scale illusions and smaller-scale close up magic tricks, before revealing the secrets of the tricks. The Masked Magician was promoted as a well-known magician who wore a mask to avoid recrimination from fellow magicians. The title alluded to the magician's code: the promise by working magicians to not reveal the basis of their tricks, or else risk getting blackballed by fellow magicians. The first four episodes were hosted by Mitch Pileggi, who also narrated for the parts with the illusions. All the episodes in the new series are also narrated by him, but he does not appear on screen. List of Grand Illusions Revealed Show One November 24, 1997 Lady to Tiger, Levitation, Chinese Lantern, Zig Zag Girl, Exploding Packing Crate, Sawing a Woman in Half (Selbit's Sawing), Sword Basket, Metamorphosis, Vanishing Elephant Show Two March 3, 1998 Crusher, Teleportation, Lady of Steel, Suit of Armor, Shooting an Arrow Through a Woman, Switching Places, Box of Pain, Water Torture Escape Show Three May 5, 1998 Table of Death, Stretcher, Knife Throwing, Haunted House, Bullet Catch, Mismade Girl, Vanishing Tank Show Four October 29, 1998 Car Crusher Escape, Cremation, Spike Torture, Guillotine, Buried Alive, Death Trap Show Five May 15, 2002 Sawing Through a Woman with a Buzz Saw, Making an Assistant Disappear, Broom Suspension, Going Through the Portal, Disappearing Dumptruck, Frozen Alive This list covers only large-scale illusions. Other tricks were exposed. At the end of the fourth show, the Masked Magician unmasked himself, and revealed that he was Val Valentino. [edit] Subsequent Specials At the end of the fourth show, the now-unmasked Val Valentino announced he would soon star in live magic shows in places like Las Vegas. On February 23, 2000, Fox broadcast Secrets of Street Magicians Finally Revealed which featured a masked street magician performing tricks in the style of David Blaine. Fox returned to the original format on May 15, 2002, with Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed 5. The new magician was wearing a new mask and a new outfit. [edit] 2008 Series Revival MyNetworkTV bought thirteen new specials for broadcast in the US during fall of 2008. Val Valentino is credited as a producer. The makers have promised the new specials will have all new illusions not previously shown. The first episode aired on October 2. Subsequent episodes are scheduled every Monday after that. WWE Divas Maria Kanellis and Eve Torres appeared in the first episode. The show will continue being aired on March 3rd on MyNetworkTV in the United States and will be available in HD. List of Grand Illusions Revealed Show One October 2, 2008 Death Saw De Kolta Chair Turning a Bentley into a Lamborghini Making a String Quartet Disappear Passing Through a Steel Wall Show Two October 6, 2008 Making a Girl Vanish from a Table Levitating a Girl on a Floating Table Dismemberment Making a Girl Appear from a Set of Clothing Making an Elephant Appear in an Empty Parking Lot Show Three October 13, 2008 Head Being Cut off by a Guillotine Making a Girl Disappear from a Cabinet Houdini Milk Can Escape Making Dancers Disappear from a Stage Chain Through Neck Levitating from Building to Building Show Four October 20, 2008 Making a Bomb Squad Car Disappear Assistant's Revenge Sawing a Girl in Half in a Torture Device Sticking a Rose Through a Girl Passing Through a Turbofan Show Five November 3, 2008 Making a Woman Disappear From a Cabinet and Reappear Somewhere Else Passing Through a Steel Plate The Twister Impaling a Woman With a Sword Surviving Being Cut Up in a Wood Chipper Show Six November 10, 2008 Teleporting From One Oil Drum to Another Topsy-Turvy (Flipping a Box But Not the Girl Inside It) Magically Writing On a Slate Board Cutting a Girl In Three Teleportation Show Seven November 17, 2008 Levitating a Girl on a Table Making Girls Appear in a Crystal Cylinder "Twilight Zone" Door Disembodied Princess (Removing the Magician's Torso) Impaling a Girl on a Spike Show Eight November 24, 2008 Houdini's Magic Trunk Making a Girl's Middle Disappear Evil Spirit Pyramid - Conjuring Spirits Catching a Selected Card in the Air with a Sword Escaping the Blades of Death This list covers only large-scale illusions. Other tricks were exposed. [edit] External links 2008 series production website Official production website Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed at the Internet Movie Database Breaking the Magician's Code 2: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed at the Internet Movie Database Breaking the Magician's Code 3: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed at the Internet Movie Database Breaking the Magician's Code 4: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed at the Internet Movie Database Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_the_Magician %27s_Code:_Magic%27s_Biggest_Secrets_Finally_Revealed" Category: Television magic shows ViewsArticle Discussion Edit this page History Personal toolsLog in / create account Naviga Top Guest Post subject: Re: Series ReturnPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:31 am Guest wrote: MaskedMagicianFan wrote: Info about the show's return!!! ADVANCED LASER CHESS PD Game from Amiga Resource Magazine, Summer `89 Issue Docs created by Vic Serbe, Big City Lights BBS, 217-356-7776,2400,N, 8,1 GETTING STARTED: First of all you should know that this game has a slew of digitized samples that it expects to find in a directory called "samples" off of the current directory. Make sure that these are available before you run the game. If the game doesn't find the sounds, it WON'T crash your machine, but it will let you know before it loads the game that it couldn't find them. WORKBENCH: Just double click the icon and go. To exit the title screen and play the game, click the left mouse button. To bypass the title screen, double click the left mouse button. CLI: Make sure that the current directory is the one with the program files in it and the samples directory off of it. Then type "ADVLASER" <cr>. a.) The background sound can be toggled on and off by pressing the space bar. b.) Advanced Laser Chess (ALC) is a well-behaved multi-tasking program and can be pushed to the back with the left-Amiga-N key sequence. c.) ALC is strictly a two player game. One may play with one's self, but it's a good way to go blind (and it's boring too!). THE GAME THE DISPLACEMENT DEVICE: In the center of the board, you will see the displacement device. this device will randomly appear and disappear after each player turn. Any piece placed on it will disappear and re-appear at a random location pointing in a random direction somewhere on the board. When the displacement device is not present, the square becomes a gate! (see below) GATES: The center column on the playing board contains four gates (not counting the one that appears when the displacement device is absent) that open and close randomly. Closed gates act as normal playing area squares. Open gates are TOTALLY DESTRUCTIVE! If a piece is moved on to an open gate, or is on a gate when it opens, it's blown to kingdom come! THE PIECES (See the iff picture called PIECES.IFF) Like [boring] chess, each piece in the game has it's own characteristics. The brightly colored sides are reflective armor, and all other surfaces are vulnerable to laser hits. Laser hits on the reflective surfaces will be reflected with no harm coming to the piece. Laser hits on the non-reflective surfaces will cause the piece to either be frozen or destroyed (depending on which type of laser hit it). To select a piece, simply click the left mouse button on it. To deselect a piece, simply click the left mouse button on it again or move the piece (by clicking the left mouse button on the destination square). All pieces may move in horizontal or vertical directions only. Therefore, a single diagonal movement will take two moves (one horizontal and one vertical). Each player gets three moves in each turn. The three moves may be taken in any way the player wishes. All moves may be used for one piece or the moves may be shared by up to three pieces. A given laser may be fired only once per turn. The laser beam will not cease until the left mouse button is released... that way you can see exactly what the path of the laser was when it was fired. All of the pieces in the game except the fully mirrored octagon and the hypergon (see below) may be rotated to any position in 45 degree clockwise increments. Any time a piece is rotated to any new position (even if several 45 degree steps are taken) ONE of the three moves will be used. If that piece is rotated back to it's original position (BEFORE DESELECTION) then no moves will be used when deselection occurs. STOMPERS: Stompers appear as octagons (either the fully or partially reflective type). Stompers can take other pieces (EVEN OF THE SAME COLOR) if they are moved on top of them. KINGS: The Kings are the diamond shaped pieces on the board. Kill the King and you win the game. Kings can take other pieces just like the stompers can, but they are VERY vulnerable and equally important. Great care should be taken whenever you move a King. If a King is taken, the game is over. The entire playing board will then turn the same color as the assailants pieces (click any mouse button to return the board to normal). When the game has ended, the only icons that will work are the QUIT, RESTART, and DISK icons. HYPERGONS: Hypergons look like wagon wheels. The hypergon is a mobile displacement device. To displace a piece (yours OR your opponents) simply move the hypergon on top of it. Any laser that hits a hypergon is reflected in a random direction. TRIANGULAR MIRRORS: Triangular Mirrors are the basis for laser offense and defense. They have only one reflective side and may be moved, taken, or destroyed just like any other piece. ONE-WAY MIRRORS: One-Way Mirrors look like an arrow enclosed in a rectangle. A laser will pass THROUGH the one way mirror without destroying or freezing it as long as the laser is going in the EXACT direction of that arrow. Any beam that strikes any other surface (except the reflective surface) will either freeze or destroy the piece. One way mirrors are excellent shields for Destructive Lasers. DESTRUCTIVE LASERS: Destructive Lasers look like a cannon. These little muthers will destroy ANY piece (except the hypergon) whose non-reflective surface is struck by their beam. Please note that the laser itself has no reflective surfaces, so it's as vulnerable as it is powerful! FREEZE (STUN) LASERS: Freeze Lasers look like little romulan space ships and fire from the back end. Any piece struck on a non-reflective surface (except the hypergon) by an Freeze Laser's beam will turn white and be temporarily frozen (disabled). A frozen piece has a 20% chance of being un-frozen at the beginning of each turn. Frozen pieces are VERY vulnerable. They cannot be selected or moved, and become non- reflective on all sides! BEAM SPLITTERS: Beam Splitters look like smaller triangular mirrors that have two reflective sides. If a beam of any type strikes the point where the two reflective sides meet (the reflective vertex), the beam is then split into two equivalent beams and are deflected perpendicularly to the original beam. Any beam that travels parallel to the reflective surface will miss the Beam Splitter and pass through the square freely. BOMBS: Finally, the Bombs are square shaped pieces that are between the Freeze Lasers and the Triangular Mirrors at the beginning of the game. Potentially the most destructive pieces on the board, Bombs will take out everything in a bordering square when detonated by the destructive laser! Bombs are detonated with laser beams. There are 4 detonation portals on the Bomb... one on each side. If a laser hits the Bomb on any other surface, the Bomb will be destroyed or frozen depending on the type of beam that hit it. If a freeze beam enters a detonation portal of the Bomb, all pieces in squares bordering the Bomb are frozen along with the Bomb. If a Bomb is in a square bordering a Bomb that's detonated, it will be destroyed, but NOT detonated (no chain reactions allowed here). ICONS All of the icons will change to the color of the pieces who's turn it is at the beginning of each turn. The numbers in the upper left corner display the number of moves left in a given players turn. The QUESTION MARK icon will highlight all of the possible destination squares available for a given piece. Simply select a piece, then click the left mouse button on the icon and hold it as long as you like (no moves will be used) while that piece is selected (good for new players). The PASS icon will forfeit any moves remaining in a turn and bring up the next player's turn. The LASER icon will fire a selected laser and use one move. If that particular laser has already been fired in that turn, then nothing happens and no moves are forfeited. The DISK icon will bring up a requestor that will allow you to either save a game, restore a game, or cancel the requestor. This function can be used at any time during, before, or after a game. When Save or Restore is selected, a string gadget is brought up and you type the name of the game in ( a .ALC extension is assumed on a restore and appended on a save). The standard board setup (like at the beginning of the game) is named DEFAULT.ALC. The LOSS icon will bring up a screen displaying all of the pieces lost by both players up to that point in the game. The screen will be displayed as long as the left mouse button is held, and gameplay will resume as soon as the mouse button is released. The RESTART icon will restart the game from scratch. The QUIT icon will exit the game completely. GAME CUSTOMIZATION All of the samples in the samples directory are stored in standard IFF form and may be changed to whatever you would like them to be, but make sure that your samples are named the same as the originals, sampled at about 10,000 samples per second, and are less than 32K. All you need is sampling hardware and software (sold together for as little as $65.00 Mail Order) and the ability to store samples in IFF form. NOTE: BACKUP THE ORIGINALS IF YOU CHANGE THESE! There is also an IFF file called ALC_PIECE.PIC. You may customize the color of the game pieces by using a paint program such as Deluxe Paint on this picture. STRATEGIES The main factor in wiping out the opponents King is foresight. Always remember that each player has THREE moves in which they may fire or capture in. Try to sneak your mirrors around without giving away what you're setting up. Indirect laser shots are the most impressive and destructive by far! Use the One-Way Mirrors as shields for your lasers. The One-Way Mirrors will allow your shots out, but no others in (at least not directly). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frYbHiUsH-I bill page <magicbilly384@msn.com> has sent you the following web link: http://www.youtube.com/user/newmaskedma ... E&hl=en-GB bill page <magicbilly384@msn.com> has sent you the following web link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_t ... ian's_Code The Wikimedia Foundation's 2009 steward election has started. Please vote. [Hide] [Help us with translations!] Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Breaking the Magician's Code) Jump to: navigation, search Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed Title card from the first episode. Subsequent episodes had a number after "REVEALED." Format Reality Documentary Starring Mitch Pileggi (narrator) Val Valentino (Masked Magician) Country of origin United States No. of episodes 5 in original series, 13 in new series Production Running time 1 hour Broadcast Original channel FOX Network Original run November 24, 1997 – October 29, 1998 Breaking the Magicians' Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed is a series of television shows in which the methods behind magic tricks and illusions are explained. In its original incarnation there were four shows broadcast in 1997 and 1998 on the FOX Network in the US, and on Sky and ITV in the UK. Subsequently a new series of thirteen shows is being broadcast by MyNetworkTV in the US and on ITV in the UK. Contents [hide] 1 The Original Series 2 Subsequent Specials 3 2008 Series Revival 4 External links [edit] The Original Series The series is made by production company Nash Entertainment. The first four specials featured incognito magician Val Valentino as the Masked Magician, who performed large-scale illusions and smaller-scale close up magic tricks, before revealing the secrets of the tricks. The Masked Magician was promoted as a well-known magician who wore a mask to avoid recrimination from fellow magicians. The title alluded to the magician's code: the promise by working magicians to not reveal the basis of their tricks, or else risk getting blackballed by fellow magicians. The first four episodes were hosted by Mitch Pileggi, who also narrated for the parts with the illusions. All the episodes in the new series are also narrated by him, but he does not appear on screen. List of Grand Illusions Revealed Show One November 24, 1997 Lady to Tiger, Levitation, Chinese Lantern, Zig Zag Girl, Exploding Packing Crate, Sawing a Woman in Half (Selbit's Sawing), Sword Basket, Metamorphosis, Vanishing Elephant Show Two March 3, 1998 Crusher, Teleportation, Lady of Steel, Suit of Armor, Shooting an Arrow Through a Woman, Switching Places, Box of Pain, Water Torture Escape Show Three May 5, 1998 Table of Death, Stretcher, Knife Throwing, Haunted House, Bullet Catch, Mismade Girl, Vanishing Tank Show Four October 29, 1998 Car Crusher Escape, Cremation, Spike Torture, Guillotine, Buried Alive, Death Trap Show Five May 15, 2002 Sawing Through a Woman with a Buzz Saw, Making an Assistant Disappear, Broom Suspension, Going Through the Portal, Disappearing Dumptruck, Frozen Alive This list covers only large-scale illusions. Other tricks were exposed. At the end of the fourth show, the Masked Magician unmasked himself, and revealed that he was Val Valentino. [edit] Subsequent Specials At the end of the fourth show, the now-unmasked Val Valentino announced he would soon star in live magic shows in places like Las Vegas. On February 23, 2000, Fox broadcast Secrets of Street Magicians Finally Revealed which featured a masked street magician performing tricks in the style of David Blaine. Fox returned to the original format on May 15, 2002, with Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed 5. The new magician was wearing a new mask and a new outfit. [edit] 2008 Series Revival MyNetworkTV bought thirteen new specials for broadcast in the US during fall of 2008. Val Valentino is credited as a producer. The makers have promised the new specials will have all new illusions not previously shown. The first episode aired on October 2. Subsequent episodes are scheduled every Monday after that. WWE Divas Maria Kanellis and Eve Torres appeared in the first episode. The show will continue being aired on March 3rd on MyNetworkTV in the United States and will be available in HD. List of Grand Illusions Revealed Show One October 2, 2008 Death Saw De Kolta Chair Turning a Bentley into a Lamborghini Making a String Quartet Disappear Passing Through a Steel Wall Show Two October 6, 2008 Making a Girl Vanish from a Table Levitating a Girl on a Floating Table Dismemberment Making a Girl Appear from a Set of Clothing Making an Elephant Appear in an Empty Parking Lot Show Three October 13, 2008 Head Being Cut off by a Guillotine Making a Girl Disappear from a Cabinet Houdini Milk Can Escape Making Dancers Disappear from a Stage Chain Through Neck Levitating from Building to Building Show Four October 20, 2008 Making a Bomb Squad Car Disappear Assistant's Revenge Sawing a Girl in Half in a Torture Device Sticking a Rose Through a Girl Passing Through a Turbofan Show Five November 3, 2008 Making a Woman Disappear From a Cabinet and Reappear Somewhere Else Passing Through a Steel Plate The Twister Impaling a Woman With a Sword Surviving Being Cut Up in a Wood Chipper Show Six November 10, 2008 Teleporting From One Oil Drum to Another Topsy-Turvy (Flipping a Box But Not the Girl Inside It) Magically Writing On a Slate Board Cutting a Girl In Three Teleportation Show Seven November 17, 2008 Levitating a Girl on a Table Making Girls Appear in a Crystal Cylinder "Twilight Zone" Door Disembodied Princess (Removing the Magician's Torso) Impaling a Girl on a Spike Show Eight November 24, 2008 Houdini's Magic Trunk Making a Girl's Middle Disappear Evil Spirit Pyramid - Conjuring Spirits Catching a Selected Card in the Air with a Sword Escaping the Blades of Death This list covers only large-scale illusions. Other tricks were exposed. [edit] External links 2008 series production website Official production website Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed at the Internet Movie Database Breaking the Magician's Code 2: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed at the Internet Movie Database Breaking the Magician's Code 3: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed at the Internet Movie Database Breaking the Magician's Code 4: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed at the Internet Movie Database Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_the_Magician %27s_Code:_Magic%27s_Biggest_Secrets_Finally_Revealed" Category: Television magic shows ViewsArticle Discussion Edit this page History Personal toolsLog in / create account Naviga Top Guest Post subject: Re: Series ReturnPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:38 am Guest wrote: Guest wrote: MaskedMagicianFan wrote: Info about the show's return!!! ADVANCED LASER CHESS PD Game from Amiga Resource Magazine, Summer `89 Issue Docs created by Vic Serbe, Big City Lights BBS, 217-356-7776,2400,N, 8,1 GETTING STARTED: First of all you should know that this game has a slew of digitized samples that it expects to find in a directory called "samples" off of the current directory. Make sure that these are available before you run the game. If the game doesn't find the sounds, it WON'T crash your machine, but it will let you know before it loads the game that it couldn't find them. WORKBENCH: Just double click the icon and go. To exit the title screen and play the game, click the left mouse button. To bypass the title screen, double click the left mouse button. CLI: Make sure that the current directory is the one with the program files in it and the samples directory off of it. Then type "ADVLASER" <cr>. a.) The background sound can be toggled on and off by pressing the space bar. b.) Advanced Laser Chess (ALC) is a well-behaved multi-tasking program and can be pushed to the back with the left-Amiga-N key sequence. c.) ALC is strictly a two player game. One may play with one's self, but it's a good way to go blind (and it's boring too!). THE GAME THE DISPLACEMENT DEVICE: In the center of the board, you will see the displacement device. this device will randomly appear and disappear after each player turn. Any piece placed on it will disappear and re-appear at a random location pointing in a random direction somewhere on the board. When the displacement device is not present, the square becomes a gate! (see below) GATES: The center column on the playing board contains four gates (not counting the one that appears when the displacement device is absent) that open and close randomly. Closed gates act as normal playing area squares. Open gates are TOTALLY DESTRUCTIVE! If a piece is moved on to an open gate, or is on a gate when it opens, it's blown to kingdom come! THE PIECES (See the iff picture called PIECES.IFF) Like [boring] chess, each piece in the game has it's own characteristics. The brightly colored sides are reflective armor, and all other surfaces are vulnerable to laser hits. Laser hits on the reflective surfaces will be reflected with no harm coming to the piece. Laser hits on the non-reflective surfaces will cause the piece to either be frozen or destroyed (depending on which type of laser hit it). To select a piece, simply click the left mouse button on it. To deselect a piece, simply click the left mouse button on it again or move the piece (by clicking the left mouse button on the destination square). All pieces may move in horizontal or vertical directions only. Therefore, a single diagonal movement will take two moves (one horizontal and one vertical). Each player gets three moves in each turn. The three moves may be taken in any way the player wishes. All moves may be used for one piece or the moves may be shared by up to three pieces. A given laser may be fired only once per turn. The laser beam will not cease until the left mouse button is released... that way you can see exactly what the path of the laser was when it was fired. All of the pieces in the game except the fully mirrored octagon and the hypergon (see below) may be rotated to any position in 45 degree clockwise increments. Any time a piece is rotated to any new position (even if several 45 degree steps are taken) ONE of the three moves will be used. If that piece is rotated back to it's original position (BEFORE DESELECTION) then no moves will be used when deselection occurs. STOMPERS: Stompers appear as octagons (either the fully or partially reflective type). Stompers can take other pieces (EVEN OF THE SAME COLOR) if they are moved on top of them. KINGS: The Kings are the diamond shaped pieces on the board. Kill the King and you win the game. Kings can take other pieces just like the stompers can, but they are VERY vulnerable and equally important. Great care should be taken whenever you move a King. If a King is taken, the game is over. The entire playing board will then turn the same color as the assailants pieces (click any mouse button to return the board to normal). When the game has ended, the only icons that will work are the QUIT, RESTART, and DISK icons. HYPERGONS: Hypergons look like wagon wheels. The hypergon is a mobile displacement device. To displace a piece (yours OR your opponents) simply move the hypergon on top of it. Any laser that hits a hypergon is reflected in a random direction. TRIANGULAR MIRRORS: Triangular Mirrors are the basis for laser offense and defense. They have only one reflective side and may be moved, taken, or destroyed just like any other piece. ONE-WAY MIRRORS: One-Way Mirrors look like an arrow enclosed in a rectangle. A laser will pass THROUGH the one way mirror without destroying or freezing it as long as the laser is going in the EXACT direction of that arrow. Any beam that strikes any other surface (except the reflective surface) will either freeze or destroy the piece. One way mirrors are excellent shields for Destructive Lasers. DESTRUCTIVE LASERS: Destructive Lasers look like a cannon. These little muthers will destroy ANY piece (except the hypergon) whose non-reflective surface is struck by their beam. Please note that the laser itself has no reflective surfaces, so it's as vulnerable as it is powerful! FREEZE (STUN) LASERS: Freeze Lasers look like little romulan space ships and fire from the back end. Any piece struck on a non-reflective surface (except the hypergon) by an Freeze Laser's beam will turn white and be temporarily frozen (disabled). A frozen piece has a 20% chance of being un-frozen at the beginning of each turn. Frozen pieces are VERY vulnerable. They cannot be selected or moved, and become non- reflective on all sides! BEAM SPLITTERS: Beam Splitters look like smaller triangular mirrors that have two reflective sides. If a beam of any type strikes the point where the two reflective sides meet (the reflective vertex), the beam is then split into two equivalent beams and are deflected perpendicularly to the original beam. Any beam that travels parallel to the reflective surface will miss the Beam Splitter and pass through the square freely. BOMBS: Finally, the Bombs are square shaped pieces that are between the Freeze Lasers and the Triangular Mirrors at the beginning of the game. Potentially the most destructive pieces on the board, Bombs will take out everything in a bordering square when detonated by the destructive laser! Bombs are detonated with laser beams. There are 4 detonation portals on the Bomb... one on each side. If a laser hits the Bomb on any other surface, the Bomb will be destroyed or frozen depending on the type of beam that hit it. If a freeze beam enters a detonation portal of the Bomb, all pieces in squares bordering the Bomb are frozen along with the Bomb. If a Bomb is in a square bordering a Bomb that's detonated, it will be destroyed, but NOT detonated (no chain reactions allowed here). ICONS All of the icons will change to the color of the pieces who's turn it is at the beginning of each turn. The numbers in the upper left corner display the number of moves left in a given players turn. The QUESTION MARK icon will highlight all of the possible destination squares available for a given piece. Simply select a piece, then click the left mouse button on the icon and hold it as long as you like (no moves will be used) while that piece is selected (good for new players). The PASS icon will forfeit any moves remaining in a turn and bring up the next player's turn. The LASER icon will fire a selected laser and use one move. If that particular laser has already been fired in that turn, then nothing happens and no moves are forfeited. The DISK icon will bring up a requestor that will allow you to either save a game, restore a game, or cancel the requestor. This function can be used at any time during, before, or after a game. When Save or Restore is selected, a string gadget is brought up and you type the name of the game in ( a .ALC extension is assumed on a restore and appended on a save). The standard board setup (like at the beginning of the game) is named DEFAULT.ALC. The LOSS icon will bring up a screen displaying all of the pieces lost by both players up to that point in the game. The screen will be displayed as long as the left mouse button is held, and gameplay will resume as soon as the mouse button is released. The RESTART icon will restart the game from scratch. The QUIT icon will exit the game completely. GAME CUSTOMIZATION All of the samples in the samples directory are stored in standard IFF form and may be changed to whatever you would like them to be, but make sure that your samples are named the same as the originals, sampled at about 10,000 samples per second, and are less than 32K. All you need is sampling hardware and software (sold together for as little as $65.00 Mail Order) and the ability to store samples in IFF form. NOTE: BACKUP THE ORIGINALS IF YOU CHANGE THESE! There is also an IFF file called ALC_PIECE.PIC. You may customize the color of the game pieces by using a paint program such as Deluxe Paint on this picture. STRATEGIES The main factor in wiping out the opponents King is foresight. Always remember that each player has THREE moves in which they may fire or capture in. Try to sneak your mirrors around without giving away what you're setting up. Indirect laser shots are the most impressive and destructive by far! Use the One-Way Mirrors as shields for your lasers. The One-Way Mirrors will allow your shots out, but no others in (at least not directly). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frYbHiUsH-I bill page <magicbilly384@msn.com> has sent you the following web link: http://www.youtube.com/user/newmaskedma ... E&hl=en-GB bill page <magicbilly384@msn.com> has sent you the following web link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_t ... ian's_Code The Wikimedia Foundation's 2009 steward election has started. Please vote. [Hide] [Help us with translations!] Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Breaking the Magician's Code) Jump to: navigation, search Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed Title card from the first episode. Subsequent episodes had a number after "REVEALED." Format Reality Documentary Starring Mitch Pileggi (narrator) Val Valentino (Masked Magician) Country of origin United States No. of episodes 5 in original series, 13 in new series Production Running time 1 hour Broadcast Original channel FOX Network Original run November 24, 1997 – October 29, 1998 Breaking the Magicians' Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed is a series of television shows in which the methods behind magic tricks and illusions are explained. In its original incarnation there were four shows broadcast in 1997 and 1998 on the FOX Network in the US, and on Sky and ITV in the UK. Subsequently a new series of thirteen shows is being broadcast by MyNetworkTV in the US and on ITV in the UK. Contents [hide] 1 The Original Series 2 Subsequent Specials 3 2008 Series Revival 4 External links [edit] The Original Series The series is made by production company Nash Entertainment. The first four specials featured incognito magician Val Valentino as the Masked Magician, who performed large-scale illusions and smaller-scale close up magic tricks, before revealing the secrets of the tricks. The Masked Magician was promoted as a well-known magician who wore a mask to avoid recrimination from fellow magicians. The title alluded to the magician's code: the promise by working magicians to not reveal the basis of their tricks, or else risk getting blackballed by fellow magicians. The first four episodes were hosted by Mitch Pileggi, who also narrated for the parts with the illusions. All the episodes in the new series are also narrated by him, but he does not appear on screen. List of Grand Illusions Revealed Show One November 24, 1997 Lady to Tiger, Levitation, Chinese Lantern, Zig Zag Girl, Exploding Packing Crate, Sawing a Woman in Half (Selbit's Sawing), Sword Basket, Metamorphosis, Vanishing Elephant Show Two March 3, 1998 Crusher, Teleportation, Lady of Steel, Suit of Armor, Shooting an Arrow Through a Woman, Switching Places, Box of Pain, Water Torture Escape Show Three May 5, 1998 Table of Death, Stretcher, Knife Throwing, Haunted House, Bullet Catch, Mismade Girl, Vanishing Tank Show Four October 29, 1998 Car Crusher Escape, Cremation, Spike Torture, Guillotine, Buried Alive, Death Trap Show Five May 15, 2002 Sawing Through a Woman with a Buzz Saw, Making an Assistant Disappear, Broom Suspension, Going Through the Portal, Disappearing Dumptruck, Frozen Alive This list covers only large-scale illusions. Other tricks were exposed. At the end of the fourth show, the Masked Magician unmasked himself, and revealed that he was Val Valentino. [edit] Subsequent Specials At the end of the fourth show, the now-unmasked Val Valentino announced he would soon star in live magic shows in places like Las Vegas. On February 23, 2000, Fox broadcast Secrets of Street Magicians Finally Revealed which featured a masked street magician performing tricks in the style of David Blaine. Fox returned to the original format on May 15, 2002, with Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed 5. The new magician was wearing a new mask and a new outfit. [edit] 2008 Series Revival MyNetworkTV bought thirteen new specials for broadcast in the US during fall of 2008. Val Valentino is credited as a producer. The makers have promised the new specials will have all new illusions not previously shown. The first episode aired on October 2. Subsequent episodes are scheduled every Monday after that. WWE Divas Maria Kanellis and Eve Torres appeared in the first episode. The show will continue being aired on March 3rd on MyNetworkTV in the United States and will be available in HD. List of Grand Illusions Revealed Show One October 2, 2008 Death Saw De Kolta Chair Turning a Bentley into a Lamborghini Making a String Quartet Disappear Passing Through a Steel Wall Show Two October 6, 2008 Making a Girl Vanish from a Table Levitating a Girl on a Floating Table Dismemberment Making a Girl Appear from a Set of Clothing Making an Elephant Appear in an Empty Parking Lot Show Three October 13, 2008 Head Being Cut off by a Guillotine Making a Girl Disappear from a Cabinet Houdini Milk Can Escape Making Dancers Disappear from a Stage Chain Through Neck Levitating from Building to Building Show Four October 20, 2008 Making a Bomb Squad Car Disappear Assistant's Revenge Sawing a Girl in Half in a Torture Device Sticking a Rose Through a Girl Passing Through a Turbofan Show Five November 3, 2008 Making a Woman Disappear From a Cabinet and Reappear Somewhere Else Passing Through a Steel Plate The Twister Impaling a Woman With a Sword Surviving Being Cut Up in a Wood Chipper Show Six November 10, 2008 Teleporting From One Oil Drum to Another Topsy-Turvy (Flipping a Box But Not the Girl Inside It) Magically Writing On a Slate Board Cutting a Girl In Three Teleportation Show Seven November 17, 2008 Levitating a Girl on a Table Making Girls Appear in a Crystal Cylinder "Twilight Zone" Door Disembodied Princess (Removing the Magician's Torso) Impaling a Girl on a Spike Show Eight November 24, 2008 Houdini's Magic Trunk Making a Girl's Middle Disappear Evil Spirit Pyramid - Conjuring Spirits Catching a Selected Card in the Air with a Sword Escaping the Blades of Death This list covers only large-scale illusions. 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Send Discard randwill View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 12:20 am Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: randwill <randw...@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:29:12 -0400 Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 12:29 am Subject: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or maybe Doug did something different... On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to far-sighted people in a really dark room. Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) randwill Reply to author Forward Rate this post: You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Art Begun View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 7:32 am Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: "Art Begun" <beg...@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:35:22 -0400 Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 7:35 am Subject: Re: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author I remember the DH special and I never saw the gimmick. Maybe with HD tv you might today. "randwill" <randw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:3D1016A8.8000405@bellsouth.net... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his > first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi > embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a > discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings > it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, > that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or > maybe Doug did something different... > On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), > remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass > ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black > close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, > you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was > very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to > far-sighted people in a really dark room. > Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) > randwill Reply to author Forward Rate this post: You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Art Begun View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 7:32 am Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: "Art Begun" <beg...@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:37:16 -0400 Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 7:37 am Subject: Re: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author On you second point, from the Stars of Magic series, the gimmick is very unexpected and I think it is performable though I've never tried. I bought one on ebay out of curiosity for a few bucks. "randwill" <randw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:3D1016A8.8000405@bellsouth.net... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his > first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi > embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a > discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings > it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, > that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or > maybe Doug did something different... > On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), > remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass > ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black > close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, > you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was > very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to > far-sighted people in a really dark room. > Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) > randwill Reply to author Forward Rate this post: You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Paul Alberstat View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 8:44 am Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: "Paul Alberstat" <p...@MindGuy.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 13:44:52 GMT Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 8:44 am Subject: Re: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author Yes he did open his first television special with it and no the method was not visible. It is still a very powerful method to use to vanish a coin slowly and cleanly. PSIncerely Yours, Paul Alberstat http://www.MINDGUY.com "randwill" <randw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:3D1016A8.8000405@bellsouth.net... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his > first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi > embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a > discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings > it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, > that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or > maybe Doug did something different... > On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), > remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass > ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black > close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, > you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was > very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to > far-sighted people in a really dark room. > Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) > randwill Reply to author Forward Rate this post: You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Mitch Leary View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 6:36 pm Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: mitchell_le...@yahoo.com (Mitch Leary) Date: 19 Jun 2002 16:34:52 -0700 Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 6:34 pm Subject: Re: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - randwill <randw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message <news: 3D1016A8.8000405@bellsouth.net>... > Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his > first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi > embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a > discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings > it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, > that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or > maybe Doug did something different... > On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), > remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass > ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black > close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, > you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was > very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to > far-sighted people in a really dark room. > Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) > randwill First my thoughts on FICKLE NICKLE. The gimmick is regular old IT and a nickle shell--thats what comes with the trick. I didn't care for it so I swithed to clear sewing thread and a real nickle. I perform it indoors in a fairly well lit room and have never been busted. It would be perfect for bar workers. When Henning did FICKLE NICKLE on his television special back in '77 I don't recall the gimmick being visible at all. I could be wrong, its been 25 years and at the time I didn't know how it works so I didn't know what to look for. I do remember it was a very tight shot of his hand, if he was using black IT then perhaps it was visible, but you'd be hard pressed to see it. Come to think of it I don't know if IT was mainstream. Before IT they used human hair. Now, my thoughts on Doug Bennet's most excellent trick, BEWILDERING --a Stars of Magic Mnuscript. I've been performing the trick on a red close-up mat for 17 years and never once has the gimmick been detected. The gimmick is clear sewing thread (or half-pound test monoline). This trick KILLS!!! I have modified the BEWILDERING gimmick by using a felt covered steel bolt in place of the weight. The bolt is fitted into one of the rear table legs and rises and falls silently. A magnet strapped to my knee holds the bolt through the table leg until I'm ready for it to fall, when I move my leg away. I use this gimmick for all kinds of animations and other tricks. For the BEWILDERING trick I found that working on a diagonal slant helps greatly in concealing the secret move where the cord penetrates the ring. Doug Bennet wrote a follow up book titled EXTRA SENSORY DECEPTIONS (1984?) which contains further material for the trick. The effects in this book are mind-blowing. For instance, the velvet cord fuses with it reflection in the small pocket mirror...which is then pulled out of its own reflection into real life; you have this solid velvet loop which has no ends! If you want to mindf**k somebody I can think of no better way to do it. This book is full of stuff like that. Mr. Bennet hung around Paul Harris in those days and this manuscript is proof the man walked away in a most warped and hellish state of dementia. -Leary- Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. bill green View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 9:46 pm Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: magic-b...@webtv.net (bill green) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:35:27 -0400 (EDT) Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 9:35 pm Subject: Re: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author cool hey what is be welrdering illusion? Re: Fickle NIckle Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Wed, Jun 19, 2002, 4:34pm (EDT-3) From: mitchell_le...@yahoo.com (Mitch Leary) randwill <randw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message <news:3D1016A8.8000405@bellsouth.net>... Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or maybe Doug did something different... On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to far-sighted people in a really dark room. Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) randwill First my thoughts on FICKLE NICKLE. The gimmick is regular old IT and a nickle shell--thats what comes with the trick. I didn't care for it so I swithed to clear sewing thread and a real nickle. I perform it indoors in a fairly well lit room and have never been busted. It would be perfect for bar workers. When Henning did FICKLE NICKLE on his television special back in '77 I don't recall the gimmick being visible at all. I could be wrong, its been 25 years and at the time I didn't know how it works so I didn't know what to look for. I do remember it was a very tight shot of his hand, if he was using black IT then perhaps it was visible, but you'd be hard pressed to see it. Come to think of it I don't know if IT was mainstream. Before IT they used human hair. Now, my thoughts on Doug Bennet's most excellent trick, BEWILDERING -- a Stars of Magic Mnuscript. I've been performing the trick on a red close-up mat for 17 years and never once has the gimmick been detected. The gimmick is clear sewing thread (or half-pound test monoline). This trick KILLS!!! I have modified the BEWILDERING gimmick by using a felt covered steel bolt in place of the weight. The bolt is fitted into one of the rear table legs and rises and falls silently. A magnet strapped to my knee holds the bolt through the table leg until I'm ready for it to fall, when I move my leg away. I use this gimmick for all kinds of animations and other tricks. For the BEWILDERING trick I found that working on a diagonal slant helps greatly in concealing the secret move where the cord penetrates the ring. Doug Bennet wrote a follow up book titled EXTRA SENSORY DECEPTIONS (1984?) which contains further material for the trick. The effects in this book are mind-blowing. For instance, the velvet cord fuses with it reflection in the small pocket mirror...which is then pulled out of its own reflection into real life; you have this solid velvet loop which has no ends! If you want to mindf**k somebody I can think of no better way to do it. This book is full of stuff like that. Mr. Bennet hung around Paul Harris in those days and this manuscript is proof the man walked away in a most warped and hellish state of dementia. -Leary- http://community.webtv.net/magic-bill/illusionideas http://community.webtv.net/magic-bill/D ... onspecials Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. 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Send Discard randwill View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 12:20 am Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: randwill <randw...@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:29:12 -0400 Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 12:29 am Subject: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or maybe Doug did something different... On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to far-sighted people in a really dark room. Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) randwill Reply to author Forward Rate this post: You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Art Begun View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 7:32 am Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: "Art Begun" <beg...@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:35:22 -0400 Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 7:35 am Subject: Re: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author I remember the DH special and I never saw the gimmick. Maybe with HD tv you might today. "randwill" <randw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:3D1016A8.8000405@bellsouth.net... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his > first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi > embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a > discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings > it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, > that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or > maybe Doug did something different... > On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), > remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass > ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black > close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, > you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was > very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to > far-sighted people in a really dark room. > Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) > randwill Reply to author Forward Rate this post: You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Art Begun View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 7:32 am Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: "Art Begun" <beg...@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:37:16 -0400 Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 7:37 am Subject: Re: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author On you second point, from the Stars of Magic series, the gimmick is very unexpected and I think it is performable though I've never tried. I bought one on ebay out of curiosity for a few bucks. "randwill" <randw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:3D1016A8.8000405@bellsouth.net... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his > first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi > embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a > discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings > it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, > that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or > maybe Doug did something different... > On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), > remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass > ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black > close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, > you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was > very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to > far-sighted people in a really dark room. > Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) > randwill Reply to author Forward Rate this post: You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Paul Alberstat View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 8:44 am Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: "Paul Alberstat" <p...@MindGuy.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 13:44:52 GMT Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 8:44 am Subject: Re: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author Yes he did open his first television special with it and no the method was not visible. It is still a very powerful method to use to vanish a coin slowly and cleanly. PSIncerely Yours, Paul Alberstat http://www.MINDGUY.com "randwill" <randw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:3D1016A8.8000405@bellsouth.net... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his > first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi > embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a > discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings > it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, > that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or > maybe Doug did something different... > On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), > remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass > ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black > close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, > you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was > very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to > far-sighted people in a really dark room. > Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) > randwill Reply to author Forward Rate this post: You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Mitch Leary View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 6:36 pm Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: mitchell_le...@yahoo.com (Mitch Leary) Date: 19 Jun 2002 16:34:52 -0700 Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 6:34 pm Subject: Re: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - randwill <randw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message <news: 3D1016A8.8000405@bellsouth.net>... > Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his > first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi > embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a > discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings > it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, > that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or > maybe Doug did something different... > On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), > remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass > ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black > close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, > you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was > very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to > far-sighted people in a really dark room. > Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) > randwill First my thoughts on FICKLE NICKLE. The gimmick is regular old IT and a nickle shell--thats what comes with the trick. I didn't care for it so I swithed to clear sewing thread and a real nickle. I perform it indoors in a fairly well lit room and have never been busted. It would be perfect for bar workers. When Henning did FICKLE NICKLE on his television special back in '77 I don't recall the gimmick being visible at all. I could be wrong, its been 25 years and at the time I didn't know how it works so I didn't know what to look for. I do remember it was a very tight shot of his hand, if he was using black IT then perhaps it was visible, but you'd be hard pressed to see it. Come to think of it I don't know if IT was mainstream. Before IT they used human hair. Now, my thoughts on Doug Bennet's most excellent trick, BEWILDERING --a Stars of Magic Mnuscript. I've been performing the trick on a red close-up mat for 17 years and never once has the gimmick been detected. The gimmick is clear sewing thread (or half-pound test monoline). This trick KILLS!!! I have modified the BEWILDERING gimmick by using a felt covered steel bolt in place of the weight. The bolt is fitted into one of the rear table legs and rises and falls silently. A magnet strapped to my knee holds the bolt through the table leg until I'm ready for it to fall, when I move my leg away. I use this gimmick for all kinds of animations and other tricks. For the BEWILDERING trick I found that working on a diagonal slant helps greatly in concealing the secret move where the cord penetrates the ring. Doug Bennet wrote a follow up book titled EXTRA SENSORY DECEPTIONS (1984?) which contains further material for the trick. The effects in this book are mind-blowing. For instance, the velvet cord fuses with it reflection in the small pocket mirror...which is then pulled out of its own reflection into real life; you have this solid velvet loop which has no ends! If you want to mindf**k somebody I can think of no better way to do it. This book is full of stuff like that. Mr. Bennet hung around Paul Harris in those days and this manuscript is proof the man walked away in a most warped and hellish state of dementia. -Leary- Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. bill green View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 9:46 pm Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: magic-b...@webtv.net (bill green) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:35:27 -0400 (EDT) Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 9:35 pm Subject: Re: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author cool hey what is be welrdering illusion? Re: Fickle NIckle Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Wed, Jun 19, 2002, 4:34pm (EDT-3) From: mitchell_le...@yahoo.com (Mitch Leary) randwill <randw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message <news:3D1016A8.8000405@bellsouth.net>... Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or maybe Doug did something different... On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to far-sighted people in a really dark room. Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) randwill First my thoughts on FICKLE NICKLE. The gimmick is regular old IT and a nickle shell--thats what comes with the trick. I didn't care for it so I swithed to clear sewing thread and a real nickle. I perform it indoors in a fairly well lit room and have never been busted. It would be perfect for bar workers. When Henning did FICKLE NICKLE on his television special back in '77 I don't recall the gimmick being visible at all. I could be wrong, its been 25 years and at the time I didn't know how it works so I didn't know what to look for. I do remember it was a very tight shot of his hand, if he was using black IT then perhaps it was visible, but you'd be hard pressed to see it. Come to think of it I don't know if IT was mainstream. Before IT they used human hair. Now, my thoughts on Doug Bennet's most excellent trick, BEWILDERING -- a Stars of Magic Mnuscript. I've been performing the trick on a red close-up mat for 17 years and never once has the gimmick been detected. The gimmick is clear sewing thread (or half-pound test monoline). This trick KILLS!!! I have modified the BEWILDERING gimmick by using a felt covered steel bolt in place of the weight. The bolt is fitted into one of the rear table legs and rises and falls silently. A magnet strapped to my knee holds the bolt through the table leg until I'm ready for it to fall, when I move my leg away. I use this gimmick for all kinds of animations and other tricks. For the BEWILDERING trick I found that working on a diagonal slant helps greatly in concealing the secret move where the cord penetrates the ring. Doug Bennet wrote a follow up book titled EXTRA SENSORY DECEPTIONS (1984?) which contains further material for the trick. The effects in this book are mind-blowing. For instance, the velvet cord fuses with it reflection in the small pocket mirror...which is then pulled out of its own reflection into real life; you have this solid velvet loop which has no ends! If you want to mindf**k somebody I can think of no better way to do it. This book is full of stuff like that. Mr. Bennet hung around Paul Harris in those days and this manuscript is proof the man walked away in a most warped and hellish state of dementia. -Leary- http://community.webtv.net/magic-bill/illusionideas http://community.webtv.net/magic-bill/D ... onspecials Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. 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Send Discard randwill View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 12:20 am Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: randwill <randw...@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:29:12 -0400 Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 12:29 am Subject: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or maybe Doug did something different... On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to far-sighted people in a really dark room. Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) randwill Reply to author Forward Rate this post: You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Art Begun View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 7:32 am Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: "Art Begun" <beg...@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:35:22 -0400 Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 7:35 am Subject: Re: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author I remember the DH special and I never saw the gimmick. Maybe with HD tv you might today. "randwill" <randw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:3D1016A8.8000405@bellsouth.net... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his > first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi > embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a > discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings > it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, > that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or > maybe Doug did something different... > On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), > remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass > ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black > close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, > you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was > very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to > far-sighted people in a really dark room. > Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) > randwill Reply to author Forward Rate this post: You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Art Begun View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 7:32 am Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: "Art Begun" <beg...@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:37:16 -0400 Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 7:37 am Subject: Re: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author On you second point, from the Stars of Magic series, the gimmick is very unexpected and I think it is performable though I've never tried. I bought one on ebay out of curiosity for a few bucks. "randwill" <randw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:3D1016A8.8000405@bellsouth.net... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his > first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi > embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a > discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings > it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, > that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or > maybe Doug did something different... > On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), > remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass > ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black > close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, > you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was > very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to > far-sighted people in a really dark room. > Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) > randwill Reply to author Forward Rate this post: You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Paul Alberstat View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 8:44 am Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: "Paul Alberstat" <p...@MindGuy.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 13:44:52 GMT Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 8:44 am Subject: Re: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author Yes he did open his first television special with it and no the method was not visible. It is still a very powerful method to use to vanish a coin slowly and cleanly. PSIncerely Yours, Paul Alberstat http://www.MINDGUY.com "randwill" <randw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:3D1016A8.8000405@bellsouth.net... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his > first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi > embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a > discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings > it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, > that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or > maybe Doug did something different... > On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), > remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass > ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black > close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, > you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was > very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to > far-sighted people in a really dark room. > Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) > randwill Reply to author Forward Rate this post: You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Mitch Leary View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 6:36 pm Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: mitchell_le...@yahoo.com (Mitch Leary) Date: 19 Jun 2002 16:34:52 -0700 Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 6:34 pm Subject: Re: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - randwill <randw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message <news: 3D1016A8.8000405@bellsouth.net>... > Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his > first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi > embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a > discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings > it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, > that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or > maybe Doug did something different... > On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), > remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass > ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black > close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, > you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was > very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to > far-sighted people in a really dark room. > Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) > randwill First my thoughts on FICKLE NICKLE. The gimmick is regular old IT and a nickle shell--thats what comes with the trick. I didn't care for it so I swithed to clear sewing thread and a real nickle. I perform it indoors in a fairly well lit room and have never been busted. It would be perfect for bar workers. When Henning did FICKLE NICKLE on his television special back in '77 I don't recall the gimmick being visible at all. I could be wrong, its been 25 years and at the time I didn't know how it works so I didn't know what to look for. I do remember it was a very tight shot of his hand, if he was using black IT then perhaps it was visible, but you'd be hard pressed to see it. Come to think of it I don't know if IT was mainstream. Before IT they used human hair. Now, my thoughts on Doug Bennet's most excellent trick, BEWILDERING --a Stars of Magic Mnuscript. I've been performing the trick on a red close-up mat for 17 years and never once has the gimmick been detected. The gimmick is clear sewing thread (or half-pound test monoline). This trick KILLS!!! I have modified the BEWILDERING gimmick by using a felt covered steel bolt in place of the weight. The bolt is fitted into one of the rear table legs and rises and falls silently. A magnet strapped to my knee holds the bolt through the table leg until I'm ready for it to fall, when I move my leg away. I use this gimmick for all kinds of animations and other tricks. For the BEWILDERING trick I found that working on a diagonal slant helps greatly in concealing the secret move where the cord penetrates the ring. Doug Bennet wrote a follow up book titled EXTRA SENSORY DECEPTIONS (1984?) which contains further material for the trick. The effects in this book are mind-blowing. For instance, the velvet cord fuses with it reflection in the small pocket mirror...which is then pulled out of its own reflection into real life; you have this solid velvet loop which has no ends! If you want to mindf**k somebody I can think of no better way to do it. This book is full of stuff like that. Mr. Bennet hung around Paul Harris in those days and this manuscript is proof the man walked away in a most warped and hellish state of dementia. -Leary- Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. bill green View profile More options Jun 19 2002, 9:46 pm Newsgroups: alt.magic.secrets From: magic-b...@webtv.net (bill green) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:35:27 -0400 (EDT) Local: Wed, Jun 19 2002 9:35 pm Subject: Re: Fickle NIckle Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author cool hey what is be welrdering illusion? Re: Fickle NIckle Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Wed, Jun 19, 2002, 4:34pm (EDT-3) From: mitchell_le...@yahoo.com (Mitch Leary) randwill <randw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message <news:3D1016A8.8000405@bellsouth.net>... Didn't Doug Henney do Fickle Nickle (bare-handed coin vanish) on his first special, live in the seventies? AND wasn't the modus operandi embarrisingly visible, ie. body attachment? I am referencing a discussion of this topic several days old in which Mitch Leary sings it's praises. I don't own the effect but if it's visible on televison, that's not very encouraging to performers out here in the trenches. Or maybe Doug did something different... On the other side of the coin (no pun intended) (oh, all right), remember that trick with the red velvet piece of cord, a heavy brass ring, and a weighty gimmick? Henning did THAT on Carson (on a black close-up mat) and it looked great. Only problem was, when you bought it, you found out that the modus operandi, which was NOT visible on TV, was very visible in real life. This made the trick undoable except to far-sighted people in a really dark room. Ah, the junk cluttering up our drawers. (I know, so change your drawers.) randwill First my thoughts on FICKLE NICKLE. The gimmick is regular old IT and a nickle shell--thats what comes with the trick. I didn't care for it so I swithed to clear sewing thread and a real nickle. I perform it indoors in a fairly well lit room and have never been busted. It would be perfect for bar workers. When Henning did FICKLE NICKLE on his television special back in '77 I don't recall the gimmick being visible at all. I could be wrong, its been 25 years and at the time I didn't know how it works so I didn't know what to look for. I do remember it was a very tight shot of his hand, if he was using black IT then perhaps it was visible, but you'd be hard pressed to see it. Come to think of it I don't know if IT was mainstream. Before IT they used human hair. Now, my thoughts on Doug Bennet's most excellent trick, BEWILDERING -- a Stars of Magic Mnuscript. I've been performing the trick on a red close-up mat for 17 years and never once has the gimmick been detected. The gimmick is clear sewing thread (or half-pound test monoline). This trick KILLS!!! I have modified the BEWILDERING gimmick by using a felt covered steel bolt in place of the weight. The bolt is fitted into one of the rear table legs and rises and falls silently. A magnet strapped to my knee holds the bolt through the table leg until I'm ready for it to fall, when I move my leg away. I use this gimmick for all kinds of animations and other tricks. For the BEWILDERING trick I found that working on a diagonal slant helps greatly in concealing the secret move where the cord penetrates the ring. Doug Bennet wrote a follow up book titled EXTRA SENSORY DECEPTIONS (1984?) which contains further material for the trick. The effects in this book are mind-blowing. For instance, the velvet cord fuses with it reflection in the small pocket mirror...which is then pulled out of its own reflection into real life; you have this solid velvet loop which has no ends! If you want to mindf**k somebody I can think of no better way to do it. This book is full of stuff like that. Mr. Bennet hung around Paul Harris in those days and this manuscript is proof the man walked away in a most warped and hellish state of dementia. -Leary- http://community.webtv.net/magic-bill/illusionideas http://community.webtv.net/magic-bill/DCillusionspecials Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. 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End of messages « Back to Discussions « Newer topic Older topic » Create a group - Google Groups - Google Home - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy ©2009 Google http://ie.youtube.com/user/billpage http://www.youtube.com type in trickbusters copperfield type in new masked magician type in secrets of copperfield type in jelbel300[/quote] [color=#FF0000]What's this have to do with Cali Cal?[/color][/quote] IT SAYS NEW MASKED MAGICIAN SERIES RETURN:) 2009 5 MORE NEW SCRETS REVEALED BY NEW MASKED MAGICIAN http://www.youtube.com type in new masked magician series return type in new masked magician march2 2009 bill page <cooltobefat@msn.com> has sent you the following web link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_the_Magician's_Code Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Breaking the Magician's Code) Jump to: navigation, search Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed Title card from the first episode. Subsequent episodes had a number after "REVEALED." Format Reality Documentary Starring Mitch Pileggi (narrator) Val Valentino (Masked Magician) Country of origin United States No. of episodes 5 in original series, 13 in new series Production Running time 1 hour (with adverts) Broadcast Original channel FOX Network Original run November 24, 1997 – October 29, 1998 Breaking the Magicians' Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed is a series of television shows in which the methods behind magic tricks and illusions are explained. In its original incarnation there were four shows broadcast in 1997 and 1998 on the FOX Network in the US, and on Sky and ITV in the UK. Subsequently a new series of thirteen shows is being broadcast by MyNetworkTV in the US and on ITV in the UK. Contents [hide] 1 The Original Series 2 Subsequent Specials 3 2008 Series Revival 4 External links [edit] The Original Series The series is made by production company Nash Entertainment. The first four specials featured incognito magician Val Valentino as the Masked Magician, who performed large-scale illusions and smaller-scale close up magic tricks, before revealing the secrets of the tricks. The Masked Magician was promoted as a well-known magician who wore a mask to avoid recrimination from fellow magicians. The title alluded to the magician's code: the promise by working magicians to not reveal the basis of their tricks, or else risk getting blackballed by fellow magicians. The first four episodes were hosted by Mitch Pileggi, who also narrated for the parts with the illusions. All the episodes in the new series are also narrated by him, but he does not appear on screen. List of Grand Illusions Revealed Show One November 24, 1997 Lady to Tiger, Levitation, Chinese Lantern, Zig Zag Girl, Exploding Packing Crate, Sawing a Woman in Half (Selbit's Sawing), Sword Basket, Metamorphosis, Vanishing Elephant Show Two March 3, 1998 Crusher, Teleportation, Lady of Steel, Suit of Armor, Shooting an Arrow Through a Woman, Switching Places, Box of Pain, Water Torture Escape Show Three May 5, 1998 Table of Death, Stretcher, Knife Throwing, Haunted House, Bullet Catch, Mismade Girl, Vanishing Tank Show Four October 29, 1998 Car Crusher Escape, Cremation, Spike Torture, Guillotine, Buried Alive, Death Trap Show Five May 15, 2002 Sawing Through a Woman with a Buzz Saw, Making an Assistant Disappear, Broom Suspension, Going Through the Portal, Disappearing Dumptruck, Frozen Alive This list covers only large-scale illusions. Other tricks were exposed. At the end of the fourth show, the Masked Magician unmasked himself, and revealed that he was Val Valentino. [edit] Subsequent Specials At the end of the fourth show, the now-unmasked Val Valentino announced he would soon star in live magic shows in places like Las Vegas. On February 23, 2000, Fox broadcast Secrets of Street Magicians Finally Revealed which featured a masked street magician performing tricks in the style of David Blaine. Fox returned to the original format on May 15, 2002, with Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed 5. The new magician was wearing a new mask and a new outfit. [edit] 2008 Series Revival MyNetworkTV bought thirteen new specials for broadcast in the US during fall of 2008. Val Valentino is credited as a producer. The makers have promised the new specials will have all new illusions not previously shown. The first episode aired on October 2. Subsequent episodes are scheduled every Monday after that. WWE Divas Maria Kanellis and Eve Torres appeared in the first episode. The show will continue being aired on March 2nd on MyNetworkTV in the United States and will be available in HD. The show is continuing to be aired in the UK on ITV4 with new episodes. Episode 9 was broadcast on the 7th of February. Episode 10 was broadcast on the 9th of February. Episode 11 was broadcast on February 14th. Episode 12 was broadcast on 16th of February and Episode 13 on 21st February. List of Grand Illusions Revealed Show One October 2, 2008 Death Saw De Kolta Chair Turning a Bentley into a Lamborghini Making a String Quartet Disappear Passing Through a Steel Wall Show Two October 6, 2008 Making a Girl Vanish from a Table Levitating a Girl on a Floating Table Dismemberment Making a Girl Appear from a Set of Clothing Making an Elephant Appear in an Empty Parking Lot Show Three October 13, 2008 Head Being Cut off by a Guillotine Making a Girl Disappear from a Cabinet Houdini Milk Can Escape Making Dancers Disappear from a Stage Chain Through Neck (Not In UK ITV Showing) Levitating from Building to Building Show Four October 20, 2008 Making a Bomb Squad Car Disappear Assistant's Revenge Sawing a Girl in Half in a Torture Device Sticking a Rose Through a Girl Passing Through a Turbofan Show Five November 3, 2008 Making a Woman Disappear From a Cabinet and Reappear Somewhere Else Passing Through a Steel Plate The Twister Impaling a Woman With a Sword Surviving Being Cut Up in a Wood Chipper Show Six November 10, 2008 Teleporting From One Oil Drum to Another Topsy-Turvy (Flipping a Box But Not the Girl Inside It) Magically Writing On a Slate Board Cutting a Girl In Three Teleportation Show Seven November 17, 2008 Levitating a Girl on a Table Making Girls Appear in a Crystal Cylinder "Twilight Zone" Door Disembodied Princess (Removing the Magician's Torso) Impaling a Girl on a Spike Show Eight November 24, 2008 Houdini's Magic Trunk Making a Girl's Middle Disappear Evil Spirit Pyramid - Conjuring Spirits Catching a Selected Card in the Air with a Sword Escaping the Blades of Death Show Nine February 7, 2009 (UK) Magic Barrel (Through the Eye of a Needle) Houdini's Fish Bowl Playing Card Through Street Window Asrah levitation Making Girls Appear In Mid Air Holding Breath Under Water For 18 Minutes Show Ten February 9, 2009 (UK) Making a 1200cc Motorbike Disappear in Mid Air Spinning a Girl Upside Down Spirit Room with Disappearing Medium Levitating a Foot off the Floor Lighting a Bulb Without Power Making a 5 Ton Military Vehicle Appear From Nowhere ( In an Empty Parking Lot ) Show Eleven February 14, 2009 (UK) Woman Vanishes From Steel Plate In Mid Air Crushing A Woman With A Steel Plunger Transformation Of Skeleton To Dummy To Woman Floating Through A Solid Steel Frame (No Wires) Penetrating A Plate Glass Window Show Twelve February 16, 2009 (UK) Producing Girls From Within 3 Sided Screen Making Live Birds Appear And Vanish From Boxes Crushing A Woman And Putting Tube Through Her Body 16 Ton Trolley Car Levitates And Disappears This list covers only large-scale illusions. 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[edit] External links 2008 series production website Official production website Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed at the Internet Movie Database Breaking the Magician's Code 2: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed at the Internet Movie Database Breaking the Magician's Code 3: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed at the Internet Movie Database Breaking the Magician's Code 4: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed at the Internet Movie Database Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_the_Magician %27s_Code:_Magic%27s_Biggest_Secrets_Finally_Revealed" Category: Television magic shows ViewsArticle Discussion Edit this page History Personal toolsLog in / create account Navigation Main page Contents Featured content Current events Random article Search Interaction About Wikipedia Community portal Recent changes Contact Wikipedia Donate to Wikipedia Help Toolbox What links here Related changes Upload file Special pages Printable version Permanent link Cite this page Languages Français Nederlands Polski This page was last modified on 17 February 2009, at 16:10. 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