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Send Discard KalElFan View profile More options Feb 27, 12:23 am Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: "KalElFan" <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:23:18 -0500 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 12:23 am Subject: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author On alt.b-g "OM" <om@ron_blows_DTH.com> wrote in message news:lsqeq4tu33q3rhhpsjsrib3pui3nbfst7m@4ax.com. > On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:19:46 -0700, RT <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> > wrote: >> Brad Templeton wrote: >>> [...] >>> I even went to see BSG's premier in the _movie theaters_ which >>> they ran before it came on TV.... >> Not if you were in the US. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_(1978_TV_series) [add the bracket at the end] >>... >> The pilot to this series, the biggest budgeted (US $7 million) pilot eve r >> up to that time, was originally released theatrically in Canada, Western >> Europe and Japan in July 1978 in an edited 125-minute version.... >> On September 17, 1978, the uncut 148-minute pilot premiered on ABC >> to spectacular Nielsen Ratings. > ...Yeah, but to be honest, nothing beat the version that was shown > in theaters with Sensurround enhancement... Other sites say that the pilot was seen by a whopping 65 million viewers, which means only about 3% as many were watching this new series a quarter century later. It makes the decision to base any new theatrical movie on the old series understandable. Even when it was cancelled it probably had 10 times the ratings this new series ever did. Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. SoHillsGuy View profile More options Feb 27, 12:38 am Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: SoHillsGuy <jerryg...@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:38:44 -0800 (PST) Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 12:38 am Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author On Feb 27, 12:23 am, "KalElFan" <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote: > Other sites say that the pilot was seen by a whopping 65 million > viewers, which means only about 3% as many were watching > this new series a quarter century later. It makes the decision to > base any new theatrical movie on the old series understandable. > Even when it was cancelled it probably had 10 times the ratings > this new series ever did. Some context is needed, though. The original "Star Wars" was still immensely huge, and "BSG" was billed as being TV's first serious attempt to show us something just like that on the small screen. After viewers saw the pilot, who came back for more viewings, whether they liked it or not? And, of course, there were far, far fewer channels in 1978. Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. OM View profile More options Feb 27, 1:12 am Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: OM <om@ron_blows_DTH.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:12:23 -0600 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 1:12 am Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 4 days (Mar 6, 1:12 am). On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:38:44 -0800 (PST), SoHillsGuy <jerryg...@comcast.net> wrote: >After viewers saw the pilot, who came back for more viewings, whether >they liked it or not? ...IIRC, about 60% of those numbers showed back up for the first half of "Lost Planet of the Gods". Only about half of that showed up for the second half, and the ratings took a drop for the episode following that. Afterwards, they leveled off and did a very shallow decline much in the same way most network shows tended to do in those days. The ratings were enough that the series remained in the top 20 even when certain episodes were obvious filler shit towards the end. The problem there was that ABC was expecting the same sort of ratings they got for the three-hour pilot for every single episode to justify the high costs. They were expecting the 50 share that "Mork & Mindy" were getting on a night that traditionally kept every show except "60 Minutes" from getting more than a half that audience. ..."Fantastic Films" #29 had the definitive article on why BSG got canned, and how ABC gaffed when they realized they' fracked up and tried to bring the series back the wrong way. The article used to be online, but the link I had is long since gone. Luckily, John LaRocque has a decent summary at his Galactica Docs site: http://members.tripod.com/john_larocque/tns/BG-FAQ.html#G7 OM -- ]======================== =============[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]======================== =============[ Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. OM View profile More options Feb 27, 1:16 am Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: OM <om@ron_blows_DTH.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:16:55 -0600 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 1:16 am Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 4 days (Mar 6, 1:16 am). On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:23:18 -0500, "KalElFan" <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote: >Other sites say that the pilot was seen by a whopping 65 million >viewers, which means only about 3% as many were watching ...And when you consider that the general rule of thumb is that whatever ratings you get from a Nielsen sweep is the *lower* limit of what the actual ratings were, there were far more people than that who watched at least part of the show. Keep in mind that the AC Nielsen company also admitted some years later that they averaged the ratings across the three hours, as the last hour saw about a 20% dropoff because a lot of retarded parents sent their kids to bed as they normally did despite the fact that the third hour was delayed by the signing of the Arab-Israeli treaty. Some political historians have speculated that memory of the preemption may have cost Carter at least a couple of percentage points in the 1980 election, even though it was the only thing the peanut-farming idiot did in his misadministration that was worthy of note. OM -- ]======================== =============[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]======================== =============[ Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. KalElFan View profile More options Feb 27, 8:50 am Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: "KalElFan" <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:50:19 -0500 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 8:50 am Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author "SoHillsGuy" <jerryg...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:b99618f1-df92-45a5-976f- ea92e09dac5e@t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 27, 12:23 am, "KalElFan" <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote: >> Other sites say that the pilot was seen by a whopping 65 million >> viewers, which means only about 3% as many were watching >> this new series a quarter century later. It makes the decision to >> base any new theatrical movie on the old series understandable. >> Even when it was cancelled it probably had 10 times the ratings >> this new series ever did. > Some context is needed, though. The original "Star Wars" was still > immensely huge, and "BSG" was billed as being TV's first serious > attempt to show us something just like that on the small screen. Yes, I don't disagree with that reason and context, but theatrically the large numbers for SF not only continued but accelerated into present day, including even the second Star Wars trilogy a few years back. The latter did well at the box office, not as well as the original especially after adjusting for inflation, but still very big numbers. So the qualifier that Star Wars fueled it, per se, doesn't mitigate the initial spectacular success of 65 million. If anything, it also strengthens the rationale for trying to follow up the original BSG concept on the big screen at this point. In fact it'll be a selling point to tout the Star Wars appeal and 65 million viewers for the first show, and defend the decision against however many passionate defenders this reimagined version has left. > After viewers saw the pilot, who came back for more viewings, > whether they liked it or not? On the TV side from a crass ratings point of view, it doesn't much matter whether they liked it or not as long as they watch and that was as or even more true back in the day. Also, another reference I saw said the show averaged a 40 household rating for the first few episodes, then declining to a 30 at some unspecified point later in the season when it had leveled off. Those numbers would be consistent with a 50% or a bit more drop from start to finish. For a series that started so enormously high, that's actually not bad. Smallville and Lost have had over 60% declines from their early peaks, and many series have sharp drops after premieres. So again I don't think that context changes a whole lot. Here's one of the two big ones: > And, of course, there were far, far fewer channels in 1978. Not just that, but video games were not what they were today, limited to Pong and perhaps a few Atari and the like, and the Internet wasn't a factor and so on. These factors have I think disproportionately affected SF properties on TV. The kind of viewer SF shows appeal to is likely to be more distracted by other things and less likely to be at the mercy of network scheduling. The last SF shows to get 20+ million viewers other than for its premiere or atypical episodes are probably mid-1990s shows like Lois & Clark, Touched By An Angel and perhaps X-Files, so going on 15 years now. Dark Angel managed 17+ million to start, Alias hit that after a Super Bowl special scheduling of it, Voyager premiered to 20+ million, Lost had that very early on I believe, Heroes came close but in all cases those series plummeted and today it's rare for an SF show to manage 10 million. Supernatural is renewed on The CW with not much more than 3 million and the Galactica reimagining managed on about 2 million. It's incredible how underperforming SF has become on the small screen. Again though, that validates the thinking of taking the original concept theatrical. The other big factor for the original BSG TV series was the cost of the show. said to be a million per episode. That may have been due to the average being skewed by the pilot, but the economics of it were a big problem and we have the same problem today on the TV side. Once again, on the theatrical side the budgets are bigger and the aftermarket is still there on other windows including eventually television. For SF, even for TV series, I think the big networks need to become secondary and bypassed by the studios. That's the future of the genre on television. Nielsen ratings just don't measure its popularity and even less so its potential value. The approach to the end market needs to be more direct, from studio to viewers. Make sponsorship deals and pocket that revenue direct. Don't let the networks get their mitts on that and then have such control over the property that they have the power to effectively cancel it. At some point a studio will have to demonstrate how that can be done, and Warners with the Terminator TV series might be a good opportunity. Once FOX cancels it after this season as they almost certainly will, give it a season 3 where the first windows are pay per season, pay per ep, then free web but with advertising and so on. Offer some extras and a discount on the DVD when it comes out. Then offer The CW or SciFi or whatever else the first network window, again perhaps with a few different extras to encourage re-watching by the few hundred thousand or perhaps up to a million who've been enticed by the earlier windows. Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. KalElFan View profile More options Feb 27, 8:54 am Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: "KalElFan" <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:54:46 -0500 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 8:54 am Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author "OM" <om@ron_blows_DTH.com> wrote in message news:r21fq4tbm0arrvr3d2fmukkncl106cvdus@4ax.com... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:23:18 -0500, "KalElFan" > <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote: >>Other sites say that the pilot was seen by a whopping 65 million >>viewers, which means only about 3% as many were watching > ...And when you consider that the general rule of thumb is that > whatever ratings you get from a Nielsen sweep is the *lower* limit of > what the actual ratings were, there were far more people than that who > watched at least part of the show. Keep in mind that the AC Nielsen > company also admitted some years later that they averaged the ratings > across the three hours, as the last hour saw about a 20% dropoff > because a lot of retarded parents sent their kids to bed as they > normally did despite the fact that the third hour was delayed by the > signing of the Arab-Israeli treaty. Some political historians have > speculated that memory of the preemption may have cost Carter at least > a couple of percentage points in the 1980 election, even though it was > the only thing the peanut-farming idiot did in his misadministration > that was worthy of note. I remember the interruption and you're right it would have had ratings impact. I doubt it had much on the election though. The Iranian hostage crisis, the Russians invading Afghanistan and so on contributed to a sense of American decline and Carter's ineffectual doormat image on the foreign policy side. His rating there was only out-pummeled by his disastrous domestic policy, with inflation run rampant and the misery index (inflation plus unemployment) peaking. In retrospect, Sadat's assassination and the failure of his initiative in bringing peace to the Middle East, plus our looking back on the visuals as just an anecdotal interruption in a TV show, probably contribute to the disastrous image his term has and the continuing very high popularity of Reagan for turning that around. Obama's term could easily suffer the same fate the way things are going. We could be looking back on him as a one-term president who screwed up on pretty much everything, as or worse than Carter did. Thirty years from now, I think it might be 50-50 on whether he's viewed as bad or worse than Carter or as good or better than Reagan. It's difficult to predict at this point. He's historic and seems well intentioned, but so did Carter the peanut farmer from Georgia at the time. Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Mason Barge View profile More options Feb 27, 10:09 am Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: "Mason Barge" <masonba...@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:09:27 -0500 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 10:09 am Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author "SoHillsGuy" <jerryg...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:b99618f1-df92-45a5-976f- ea92e09dac5e@t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... On Feb 27, 12:23 am, "KalElFan" <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote: > Other sites say that the pilot was seen by a whopping 65 million > viewers, which means only about 3% as many were watching > this new series a quarter century later. It makes the decision to > base any new theatrical movie on the old series understandable. > Even when it was cancelled it probably had 10 times the ratings > this new series ever did. Some context is needed, though. The original "Star Wars" was still immensely huge, and "BSG" was billed as being TV's first serious attempt to show us something just like that on the small screen. After viewers saw the pilot, who came back for more viewings, whether they liked it or not? And, of course, there were far, far fewer channels in 1978. ------------------ The entire subject of space travel was a lot more popular then; it was way cool. It really stems back to NASA and Neil Armstrong. If you notice, popular scifi today is rarely space-oriented, reflecting the lack of big-headline space exploration IRL. A lot of it is political, martial arts, supernatural, "mutant" or invasion stuff. A lot of people with special powers. Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Patrick McNamara View profile More options Feb 27, 10:37 am Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: "Patrick McNamara" <writerpatr...@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:37:05 -0500 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 10:37 am Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author "SoHillsGuy" <jerryg...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:b99618f1-df92-45a5-976f- ea92e09dac5e@t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > On Feb 27, 12:23 am, "KalElFan" <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote: >> Other sites say that the pilot was seen by a whopping 65 million >> viewers, which means only about 3% as many were watching >> this new series a quarter century later. It makes the decision to >> base any new theatrical movie on the old series understandable. >> Even when it was cancelled it probably had 10 times the ratings >> this new series ever did. > Some context is needed, though. The original "Star Wars" was still > immensely huge, and "BSG" was billed as being TV's first serious > attempt to show us something just like that on the small screen. > After viewers saw the pilot, who came back for more viewings, whether > they liked it or not? > And, of course, there were far, far fewer channels in 1978. Not to mention fewer TV sets in the house. Having two sets was unusual. Typically, everyone watched the same set. And there was much less Sci-Fi on TV. The leading SF show of the time was repeats of the original Star Trek. Battlestar Galactica was the first sci-fi show to show special effects anywhere close to that of Star Wars. It was the Star Wars of TV. -- Patrick McNamara E-mail: patjmcnam...@gmail.com Webpage: http://www.geocities.com/writerpatrick Blue Hot Gossip comedy: http://bluehotgossip.blogspot.com Podcast Ping: http://podcastping.blogspot.com Torrentcast: http://www.mininova.org/rss.xml?user=PodcastPing Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Mason Barge View profile More options Feb 27, 11:21 am Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: "Mason Barge" <masonba...@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:21:16 -0500 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 11:21 am Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author "Patrick McNamara" <writerpatr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:go9198$dk2$1@news.motzarella.org... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > "SoHillsGuy" <jerryg...@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:b99618f1-df92-45a5-976f-ea92e09dac5e@t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... >> On Feb 27, 12:23 am, "KalElFan" <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote: >>> Other sites say that the pilot was seen by a whopping 65 million >>> viewers, which means only about 3% as many were watching >>> this new series a quarter century later. It makes the decision to >>> base any new theatrical movie on the old series understandable. >>> Even when it was cancelled it probably had 10 times the ratings >>> this new series ever did. >> Some context is needed, though. The original "Star Wars" was still >> immensely huge, and "BSG" was billed as being TV's first serious >> attempt to show us something just like that on the small screen. >> After viewers saw the pilot, who came back for more viewings, whether >> they liked it or not? >> And, of course, there were far, far fewer channels in 1978. > Not to mention fewer TV sets in the house. Having two sets was unusual. > Typically, everyone watched the same set. > And there was much less Sci-Fi on TV. I'm not so sure. There aren't but a couple of scifi shows on network tv today, and even in the 50's and 60's, tv always seemed to have a couple of shows, including the great "Twilight Zone". Anyone remember Science Fiction Theater? Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. pbowles@aol.com View profile More options Feb 27, 1:33 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: "pbow...@aol.com" <pbow...@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:33:46 -0800 (PST) Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 1:33 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author On 27 Feb, 13:50, "KalElFan" <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote: - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > "SoHillsGuy" <jerryg...@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:b99618f1-df92-45a5-976f-ea92e09dac5e@t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > > On Feb 27, 12:23 am, "KalElFan" <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote: > >> Other sites say that the pilot was seen by a whopping 65 million > >> viewers, which means only about 3% as many were watching > >> this new series a quarter century later. It makes the decision to > >> base any new theatrical movie on the old series understandable. > >> Even when it was cancelled it probably had 10 times the ratings > >> this new series ever did. > > Some context is needed, though. The original "Star Wars" was still > > immensely huge, and "BSG" was billed as being TV's first serious > > attempt to show us something just like that on the small screen. > Yes, I don't disagree with that reason and context, but theatrically > the large numbers for SF not only continued but accelerated into > present day, including even the second Star Wars trilogy a few > years back. The latter did well at the box office, not as well as > the original especially after adjusting for inflation, but still very big > numbers. Star Wars was a bigger brand than BSG ever was, and aimed at a 'family' audience it's bound to attract higher viewers than a show deliberately targeted at a 'niche' market. Plus, weren't those 65 million for a cinema audience, not the TV version of the pilot? Also, when allowing for the number of channels it helps to remember also that sci-fi TV, including BSG, is these days largely confined to the Sci-Fi Network in the US (as I understand it), which for all its prominence among genre fans isn't a major network in terms of ratings or general awareness. > So the qualifier that Star Wars fueled it, per se, doesn't mitigate > the initial spectacular success of 65 million. If anything, it also > strengthens the rationale for trying to follow up the original BSG > concept on the big screen at this point. In fact it'll be a selling > point to tout the Star Wars appeal and 65 million viewers for > the first show, and defend the decision against however many > passionate defenders this reimagined version has left. I'd agree that a film based on the current version of the series wouldn't work - there's no way it could be made accessible to a non- BSG audience. But the timing is completely wrong, since as the initial poster pointed out it just leads to confusion. These days there's hardly a concept that doesn't get reinvented two or three times, but rarely all the same time. Phil Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Brad Templeton View profile More options Feb 27, 2:01 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: b...@templetons.com (Brad Templeton) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:01:56 -0600 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 2:01 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author BSG 1978, whatever the ratings of its pilot (I would like to see a cite for that 65M number) was not a success. It was cancelled after 1 season. It was not brought back. Galactica 1980 was a desperate attempt to get something from the franchise by getting officially classed as children's programming. This required it be dumbed down, that violence and adult themes be limited, and that it have children's characters like the super scouts. It was not a return of the original show. -- A version of "The Rules" for guys http://www.templetons.com/brad/rulesguys.html Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Brad Templeton View profile More options Feb 27, 2:05 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: b...@templetons.com (Brad Templeton) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:05:05 -0600 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 2:05 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author In article <hpWdne0wdrmXjjXUnZ2dnUVZ_haWn...@giganews.com>, - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Mason Barge <masonba...@comcast.net> wrote: >"Patrick McNamara" <writerpatr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:go9198$dk2$1@news.motzarella.org... >> "SoHillsGuy" <jerryg...@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:b99618f1-df92-45a5-976f-ea92e09dac5e@t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... >>> On Feb 27, 12:23 am, "KalElFan" <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote: >>>> Other sites say that the pilot was seen by a whopping 65 million >>>> viewers, which means only about 3% as many were watching >>>> this new series a quarter century later. It makes the decision to >>>> base any new theatrical movie on the old series understandable. >>>> Even when it was cancelled it probably had 10 times the ratings >>>> this new series ever did. >>> Some context is needed, though. The original "Star Wars" was still >>> immensely huge, and "BSG" was billed as being TV's first serious >>> attempt to show us something just like that on the small screen. >>> After viewers saw the pilot, who came back for more viewings, whether >>> they liked it or not? >>> And, of course, there were far, far fewer channels in 1978. >> Not to mention fewer TV sets in the house. Having two sets was unusual. >> Typically, everyone watched the same set. >> And there was much less Sci-Fi on TV. >I'm not so sure. There aren't but a couple of scifi shows on network tv >today, and even in the 50's and 60's, tv always seemed to have a couple of >shows, including the great "Twilight Zone". I'm sure. Aside from the fact that network TV is no longer the majority of TV, today network TV _crawls_ with SF. In the 70s, an SF TV show on the networks was a big deal. Now each fall lineup contains several SF/Fantasy shows, usually more than one per network. -- A version of "The Rules" for guys http://www.templetons.com/brad/rulesguys.html Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. clouddreamer View profile (1 user) More options Feb 27, 2:29 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: clouddreamer <Reuse.Recy...@nd.Reduce.now> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:59:41 -0330 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 2:29 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author Brad Templeton wrote: > BSG 1978, whatever the ratings of its pilot (I would like to see a cite > for that 65M number) was not a success. It was cancelled after 1 > season. I remember the 65 million number from 1978...it was the highest rating for a show to date. The show, unfortunately, had bigger problems than ratings. Production costs were at record levels (IIRC, more than $1 million an episode) and they were often still filming scenes the day the show was scheduled to air. It was also a victim of football overruns. The show had nothing going for it except a great idea. .. -- We must change the way we live Or the climate will do it for us. Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Audie Murphy's Ghost View profile (2 users) More options Feb 27, 3:33 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: Audie Murphy's Ghost <takebackamer...@2008.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:33:44 -0500 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 3:33 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author In article <1rWdncEuK4U5pTXUnZ2dnUVZ_vnin...@posted.rawbandwidth>, Brad Templeton <b...@templetons.com> wrote: > BSG 1978, whatever the ratings of its pilot (I would like to see a cite > for that 65M number) was not a success. It was cancelled after 1 > season. > It was not brought back. Galactica 1980 was a desperate attempt to > get something from the franchise by getting officially classed as > children's programming. This required it be dumbed down, that > violence and adult themes be limited, and that it have children's > characters like the super scouts. It was not a return of the > original show. It was a sequel; Boxie had grown up and turned into Kent McCord. Galactica 1980 was ABC's way of filling the 7 p.m. ET hour on Sundays, which had been reserved for children's or informational programming. Sunday was an exception to the prime-time access rule instituted about eight years before, said exception having been created to allow the Disney series to continue. The exception is also why 60 Minutes was moved to Sundays. Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. OM View profile More options Feb 27, 3:38 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: OM <om@ron_blows_DTH.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:38:33 -0600 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 3:38 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 4 days (Mar 6, 3:38 pm). On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:59:41 -0330, clouddreamer <Reuse.Recy...@nd.Reduce.now> wrote: >The show had nothing going for it except a great idea. ...Actually, the show was crippled by its timeslot. Had it been aired on a Tuesday or Wednesday night, or even on Thursdays after a lead-in from "Mork and Mindy" as was originally proposed, the show would have not only lasted a couple of seasons at least, but would have been nowhere near the "kiddie show" the timeslot forced it to become. Remember, "family hour" meant that the bad guys couldn't hit the good guys, much less kill them. Why else did the A-Team rack up so many victories with an almost AbZero kill ratio? ...The other reason for putting BGOS in that Sunday night 8pmET/7pmCT slot was that it was expected to have crushed NBC's "Wonderful World of Disney", and whatever See-BS was airing at the time. It put a dent in them, but not enough to satisfiy ABC's suits. At the same time, that Sunday night slot had been traditionally a very difficult slot to program for, and you had to aim for a specific audience - conservative, bibble-thumping families - or you saw EPIC FAIL(*). ABC found that out when they canned BSG and moved "Mork" to the same time slot, and saw that rock solid 50-share erode to the same ratings that BSG had. Ergo, it wasn't that the show sucked, its was the timeslot and who had control of the tube that night. And gramma don't do sci-fi. (*) There was one exception, which was "All in the Family". It succeeded because it broke more molds than family values could accomodate for. But that's another story altogether. OM -- ]======================== =============[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]======================== =============[ Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. PV View profile More options Feb 27, 5:49 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: pv+use...@pobox.com (PV) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:49:40 -0600 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 5:49 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author clouddreamer <Reuse.Recy...@nd.Reduce.now> writes: >Brad Templeton wrote: >> BSG 1978, whatever the ratings of its pilot (I would like to see a cite >> for that 65M number) was not a success. It was cancelled after 1 >> season. >I remember the 65 million number from 1978...it was the highest rating >for a show to date. 65 million viewers? That's completely nuts. The most highly viewed television episode of all time, the M*A*S*H series finale, had just over 50 million viewers. BSG was very highly rated for its time slot, at least initially, but come on, get real. I've been trying to find real nielsen numbers for 1978, but so far nothing I've found mentions BSG. The top-rated network show that year was "Three's Company". Snort. * -- * PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something like corkscrews. Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. clouddreamer View profile (2 users) More options Feb 27, 6:21 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: clouddreamer <Reuse.Recy...@nd.Reduce.now> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:51:50 -0330 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 6:21 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author PV wrote: > clouddreamer <Reuse.Recy...@nd.Reduce.now> writes: >> Brad Templeton wrote: >>> BSG 1978, whatever the ratings of its pilot (I would like to see a cite >>> for that 65M number) was not a success. It was cancelled after 1 >>> season. >> I remember the 65 million number from 1978...it was the highest rating >> for a show to date. > 65 million viewers? That's completely nuts. The most highly viewed > television episode of all time, the M*A*S*H series finale, had just over 50 > million viewers. No, the MASH finale was in the 106 million viewer range. .. -- We must change the way we live Or the climate will do it for us. Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Audie Murphy's Ghost View profile (2 users) More options Feb 27, 6:32 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: Audie Murphy's Ghost <takebackamer...@2008.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:32:49 -0500 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 6:32 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author In article <A6SdncWKO9GZ8zXUnZ2dnUVZ_tmWn...@supernews.com>, PV <pv+use...@pobox.com> wrote: > 65 million viewers? That's completely nuts. The most highly viewed > television episode of all time, the M*A*S*H series finale, had just over 50 > million viewers. That was the number of households. The number of viewers was much higher than that. The last episode of M*A*S*H drew a 60.2 rating/77 share. That equates to just about 106 million viewers. That record isn't likely to be broken. Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. BaJoRi View profile More options Feb 27, 7:02 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: "BaJoRi" <baronjos...@aol.com> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:02:07 GMT Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 7:02 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author "Audie Murphy's Ghost" <takebackamer...@2008.com> wrote in message news:270220091832490021%takebackamerica@2008.com... > In article <A6SdncWKO9GZ8zXUnZ2dnUVZ_tmWn...@supernews.com>, PV > <pv+use...@pobox.com> wrote: >> 65 million viewers? That's completely nuts. The most highly viewed >> television episode of all time, the M*A*S*H series finale, had just over >> 50 >> million viewers. > That was the number of households. The number of viewers was much > higher than that. The last episode of M*A*S*H drew a 60.2 rating/77 > share. That equates to just about 106 million viewers. > That record isn't likely to be broken. Actually, the total viewers number will be broken, most likely in the next five years. The population grows and the Super Bowl came within just a few million this year. In the year that MASH ended, the SuperBowl viewership was about 75 million. It is the rating and share amount that will never be broken, at least until Obama puts us so far in debt to the Chinese that they will eventually own the U.S., and the announcement transferring ownership will be broadcast on all networks and cable outlets. Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Kestra View profile More options Feb 27, 7:54 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: "Kestra" <tasselhoffburf...@nospam.com> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:54:34 GMT Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 7:54 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author "KalElFan" <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote in message news:70pbn6FhammsU1@mid.individual.net... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > On alt.b-g "OM" <om@ron_blows_DTH.com> wrote in message > news:lsqeq4tu33q3rhhpsjsrib3pui3nbfst7m@4ax.com. >> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:19:46 -0700, RT <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> >> wrote: >>> Brad Templeton wrote: >>>> [...] >>>> I even went to see BSG's premier in the _movie theaters_ which >>>> they ran before it came on TV.... >>> Not if you were in the US. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_(1978_TV_series) > [add the bracket at the end] >>>... >>> The pilot to this series, the biggest budgeted (US $7 million) pilot >>> ever >>> up to that time, was originally released theatrically in Canada, Wester n >>> Europe and Japan in July 1978 in an edited 125-minute version.... I'll add Australia to that, because my older sister remembers seeing it at the drive-in. Kes Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. Eric D. Berge View profile More options Feb 27, 8:51 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: Eric D. Berge <eric _ berge @ hotmail.com.invalid> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:51:24 -0800 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 8:51 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:21:16 -0500, "Mason Barge" <masonba...@comcast.net> wrote: >> And there was much less Sci-Fi on TV. >I'm not so sure. There aren't but a couple of scifi shows on network tv >today Huh? Heroes Lost Sarah Connor Dollhouse Fringe 11th Hour ...and I'm probably forgetting one or two. Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. BaJoRi View profile More options Feb 27, 8:49 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: "BaJoRi" <baronjos...@aol.com> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:49:04 GMT Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 8:49 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author "Eric D. Berge" <eric _ berge @ hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:936hq41llmdtcg884a3pjem6r02cgk9cci@4ax.com... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:21:16 -0500, "Mason Barge" > <masonba...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> And there was much less Sci-Fi on TV. >>I'm not so sure. There aren't but a couple of scifi shows on network tv >>today > Huh? > Heroes > Lost > Sarah Connor > Dollhouse > Fringe > 11th Hour > ...and I'm probably forgetting one or two. CBS News ABC News NBC News Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. clouddreamer View profile (1 user) More options Feb 27, 8:50 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: clouddreamer <George.W.Bush.2001.2...@End.of.an.Error> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:20:57 -0330 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 8:50 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Eric D. Berge wrote: > On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:21:16 -0500, "Mason Barge" > <masonba...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> And there was much less Sci-Fi on TV. >> I'm not so sure. There aren't but a couple of scifi shows on network tv >> today > Huh? > Heroes > Lost > Sarah Connor > Dollhouse > Fringe > 11th Hour > ...and I'm probably forgetting one or two. CSI and 24...according to some. .. -- We must change the way we live, or the climate will do it for us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oCYW4ScUnw Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. OM View profile More options Feb 27, 9:49 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: OM <om@ron_blows_DTH.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:49:05 -0600 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 9:49 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 4 days (Mar 6, 9:49 pm). On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:51:50 -0330, clouddreamer <Reuse.Recy...@nd.Reduce.now> wrote: >>Some killfiled child-molested troll quiffed: >> 65 million viewers? That's completely nuts. The most highly viewed >> television episode of all time, the M*A*S*H series finale, had just over 50 >> million viewers. >No, the MASH finale was in the 106 million viewer range. ...PerVert is more than half-off with his estimate. According to AC Nielsen at the time, 106 million was the average, although it's believed that at least an additional 20 million viewers were uncounted due to numerous "M*A*S*H Finale Watch Parties" held at bars and trendy restaurants across the country. OM -- ]======================== =============[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]======================== =============[ Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space You must Sign in before you can post messages. To post a message you must first join this group. Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. You do not have the permission required to post. KalElFan View profile More options Feb 27, 10:03 pm Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv From: "KalElFan" <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:03:03 -0500 Local: Fri, Feb 27 2009 10:03 pm Subject: Re: Original BSG 1978 Pilot Ratings (was BSG movie...) Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author Responses to other posts pending but I thought I'd get this one out now and cite various information I ran across... "Brad Templeton" <b...@templetons.com> wrote in message news:1rWdncEuK4U5pTXUnZ2dnUVZ_vninZ2d@posted.rawbandwidth... > BSG 1978, whatever the ratings of its pilot (I would like to see a > cite for that 65M number)... It appears in many places (or there are many copies :-)) but for example this is via IGN. The article quotes the press release for the original series DVD that coincided with the start of the new series in 2003. I'll quote the most relevant paragraph after the link: http://dvd.ign.com/articles/426/426739p1.html "Battlestar Galactica, the definitive battle between the last surviving human colony and an evil robotic race, premiered on ABC in 1978 to an audience of 65 million viewers. The show remained a top-15 series throughout its brief run, and was eventually cancelled due to the prohibitively expensive special effects. From legendary television series creator Glen A. Larson (Magnum P.I., The Six Million Dollar Man), this science fiction adventure starring Lorne Green, Richard Hatch and Dirk Benedict quickly established itself as an epic and powerful television saga." > ... was not a success. It was cancelled after 1 season. With prohibitive costs being a major factor, as the above passage and many others cite. The 65 million is difficult for some to accept 30 years later when the TV universe has fragmented so much, but it was just the three big networks basically and Sunday is traditionally the night with the highest available viewership, particularly families. The huge hype and anticipation for the premiere would have been able to generate a high number of viewers. With kids (the peak of the baby boom, broadly defined, not yet adults) and families watching, the number of households that could have generated that 65 million number might may have been only, say, 28 million or about 2.3 per household. There were 74.5 million households with televisions in 1978, so 28 million of them tuning in would give Galactica a 37.6 household rating. That wouldn't even make the top 100 all-time, which cuts off at no lower than a 39.7 household rating. From Nielsen via Variety, the top 100 all-time, by household rating, last updated in 2000: http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=chart_pass&charttype=chart_to.. . The M*A*S*H finale in 1983 had 50.15 million households (scroll up from the below link) and 105.9 million viewers (at the below link), so 2.1 people per household. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-watched_television_episodes... Given the demographics 5 years before that, and the relatively greater number of kids that would have been watching Galactica early on a Sunday night (at least before the interruption) my 2.3 estimate above should perhaps be higher. If it was, Galactica's premiere would be even further down the household rating list, perhaps not even in the top 200 if we had that list. So I can see the 65 million being accurate. The prevalence of kids, reflected in the high average viewership per household of perhaps 2.3 or more, would also explain why ABC dumbed it down even more for Galactica 1980. 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