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Re: I saw Critical Mass

"JNugent" <JN@NPPTG.com> wrote in message
news:-pSdnVFGq-fpuAvVnZ2dnUVZ8sjinZ2d@pipex.net...
> Amy Blankenship wrote:
>> "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
>> news:0b18464c-447a-46b0-81a1-3f7cd6252a5b@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Aug 2, 9:38 am, Peter Cole <peter_c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> Many bicycle laws are pretty difficult to enforce as they are judgment
>>>> calls. When is riding abreast (illegal here) actually passing (legal)?
>>>> When is "taking the lane" actually failure to yield? When is
a group
>>>> ride actually more like a race (requiring permit)? The reality is, when
>>>> riding a bike in most places here in the US, you're a minority using a
>>>> system of laws and traffic controls that was designed for the majority.
>>>> My personal feeling is that bending/breaking some laws some times is
>>>> just pragmatic and not some kind of ethical slippery slope. I don't
>>>> advocate that position, but neither do I believe that, for instance,
>>>> cyclists failure to observe ROR restrictions is a matter of much
>>>> consequence, either for safety or "public relations".
Opinions,
>>>> obviously, vary.
>>> Another is riding with earphones on.  Lots of people do it but it's
>>> illegal and bikers would complain if a SUV driver was doing the same
>>> thing.
>>
>> Most car drivers _do_ drive around with their music playing, often loudly
>> enough that they can't hear anything outside the car.
>
> Even worse (from your perpective): some profoundly deaf people drive and
> ride motor vehicles.
>
> Your remark seems to indicate that you think they shouldn't be allowed to
> drive, since they can't hear anything outside the vehicle (assuming it not
> to be a motor-cycle).
>
> Is that what you meant?
>
> If not, why is it important for other drivers to be able to hear noises
> that emanate from outside the vehicle?

No, I am saying that drivers with music blaring are equivalent to bike
riders with headphones.  If it's so horrible for bike riders to have
headphones on, it is as bad or worse for drivers to have loud music on in
their cars.  Since you quoted the full context I left in the message, I can
only assume you're being deliberately obtuse.  Is that what you intended?

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