Re: in approximately 2 weeks the nasdaq when down equal to two years of gains

"Mr4701" <NoExists@Earth.net> wrote in message
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>i hate when it when down
>
Are you sure?

>
>
> "ftds" <ftds@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:tpPjj.7794$U4.3700@trndny01...
>> nothing like all or nothing by the market scammers, It takes two or three
>> weeks for years of stocks gains  ( many times up after investors left) to
>> be lost.. a coincidence? NOT]
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "estalavi" <estaviv@yahoo.com>
>> Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.business,pa.politics,phl.media,md.general
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:17 AM
>> Subject: Lung Cancer ,Stock Fraud and Truth in life
>>
>>
>>> The most one can do is hope you can protect your family for more ways to
>>> seperate you and your money from Big business and oil . Each year the
>>> big
>>> business, credit card companies,stock brokerages and Market Makers and
>>> Insiders  and oil companies and utilities  find more ways to rape you,
>>> without trying to sponser alternatives fast enough or strong enough.  If
>>> it
>>> stopped there that would be one thing. Knowing the news stations keep
>>> consolidating also shows the intent of rich getting richer and anything
>>> is
>>> possible. For ten years I tried to show how news and our epa is not
>>> protecting people from harm from pollution. Some places more affected
>>> actually have less rules to follow in order to allow pollution of the
>>> air
>>> and ocean to continue. You hear soo many studies about cancer, rarely
>>> are
>>> they studies based on pollution numbers although they could if they
>>> wanted
>>> to show harm. Stock brokers and online trade investors often play
>>> against
>>> your investment,,, finding every conceivable way to make sure once you
>>> come
>>> on line to watch porn and trade stocks they will take your money. Its
>>> like a
>>> golden rule to them and don't think they can't know your investment
>>> history
>>> or how likely you will buy and sell ..aka go opposite your play.  Your
>>> money
>>> in or the most popular stocks pumped , the more chance they will find
>>> reasons to short it or go long if you shorted it. The willful evolution
>>> of
>>> trading stocks has matured to the point where playing against your  big
>>> money is the goal of insiders and brokerages (fees for transactions) and
>>> market makers. Seriously it don't matter how good a stock is.. the
>>> people in
>>> the market can find every conceivable reason to go opposite your play if
>>> they want to . and when reasoning fails they always have the excuse ,
>>> who
>>> said stocks are reasonable?  Even me when I say not to put a stop order
>>> in for the last five weeks the stocks go down so fast where one of the
>>> few times in history a stop order might be needed. Its like whatever
>>> option you choose, they will find a reason to go against you seriously.
>>> Take going green. Sure some people did ok , but just as many lost allot
>>> , if you invested in ethanol or biofuels even though its mandated.! The
>>> companies whose crop prices are blamed its going up to fast so they lost
>>> value too. The only plays that win are the stock companies and insiders
>>> who know when to buy after you lose.. Read more about this later. so
>>> lies, taking
>>> your money and poisoning people in the US is going full blast.. so help
>>> me
>>> god , some of course more then others.
>>> the most unbelievable destruction of values that is going on in the
>>> market
>>> and in daily life continues and
>>> is ignored.
>>> this is just my opinion
>>>
>>> How popular and great is your stock? The more popular and the more money
>>> you
>>> put in the more reasons the scum in the markets can bet against you and
>>> you
>>> lose,.. the markets  don't  have to go down  for you to lose, just
>>> opposite
>>> your positions!!!!
>>>
>>> Please read the whole long post and send it to many people.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I suggest don't play the markets its a set up and I say it based on the
>>> conclusions I left below:
>>> Do you see the same news stories on tv?
>>>> Do you see the same owners allowed to accumulate and consolidate tv
>>>> ownership?
>>>> Do you see our dependence on costly polluted energy and inflation?
>>>> Do you see more violence in the US then many if not most countries of
>>>> the
>>>> world?
>>>> Do you see your stocks going up?
>>>> Do you see kids bringing guns to school?
>>>> Do you see 50 millions without health insurance
>>>> Do you see millions without jobs ignored by news?
>>>>>
>>>>--------------------------------
>>>
>>> ----- ,tx.politics
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:26 AM
>>> Subject: The US our Press Don't Talk about World Alert
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>> The fixing of the stock market continues and thats just my
opinion
>>>>>> when they see your big money all gains halt. If they don't have
a
>>>>>> reason
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> taking it down they will think one up:. recession , drop in
jobs (
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> reason they used to take it up too when maybe your money was
not in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> market lol) smaller then realized profits,
>>>>>> transportation costs, owner sells, broker downgrades, broker
>>>>>> upgrades,
>>>>>> stock has gone up too much , the stock is no good because it
don't go
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> enough.. read on, The stock
>>>>>> market doesn't have to go down to prove its fixed it just
usually
>>>>>> goes
>>>>>> opposite your big position.!!!! Thats all that it needs to do
for big
>>>>>> boys to capitalize over your investment and its legal too! .
This
>>>>>> post I
>>>>>> got more email then any other.
>>>>>> My email mcsantpollution@yahoo.com
>>>>>> I got more mail from this then anything else I wrote.
>>>>>> If you want real links to damage from pollution write me, this
is
>>>>>> real
>>>>>> links
>>>>>> to real studies .
>>>>>> Now the fixing of the stock market.
>>>>>>>>>> For ten years I did a survey on who gains and
loses and who
>>>>>>>>>> invested
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the stock market. Listen carefully.The
stocks you buy in usually
>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>> down,
>>>>>>>>>>> especially if it allot of money you
invested and you bought it
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> go up ( as opposed to investing in short
markets) . But it can
>>>>>>>>>>> happen the reverse if you put allot of
money on the short end.
>>> Stocks go up after you get out. You end up saying I should have  just
>>> stayed.. Its always that way . but if you desire to get back  don' be
>>> surprised the stock stops going up again once your big money shows
>>> up yet again.. If You do decide to catch a wave or hype or stock tip
>>> chances are great  your wave will break as soon as your big money shows
>>> up.almost
>>> guaranteed. Market makers just keep it down till you leave then bring it
>>> back up when your no
>>> longer
>>> in the stock  .- Usually within a day or two with one big swing up (
>>> usually  when  the least
>>> amount of investors who just got out are not there).  and you say  to
>>> yourself I should have just stayed in  right? Who buys back so fast
>>> after
>>> you sell and make a loss Chances are its insiders or
>>> stocks reserved for maket makers even brokers.
>>> Then they can show the stock went up. and sell it back to
>>> vulnerable
>>> and only they make the profits..  and  just start the process
>>> over and over. Insiders and money market
>>> peoplecapitalize and of course brokers like Scott Trade make out too be
>>> commissions. Don't ever
>>>>>>>>>>> invest in Scott trade, thats just my
opinion. I saw a stock in
>>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>>> time selling for
>>>>>>>>>>> approx 11.68.. as soon as I go to sell form
thAT price WITHIN
>>>>>>>>>>> SECONDS IT was 11.54,,
>>>>>>>>>>> it dropped 13 cents in the five seconds it
took to write out my
>>>>>>>>>>> sell order. after I sold the stock was
selling for 11.68, again.
>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>> I believe my sell order had resulted in
worse then real time
>>>>>>>>>>> prices? OF COURSE this is normal for some
people because they
>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> get away with it.   then I bought a stock
in real time that was
>>>>>>>>>>> going for approx$ 44.39. I made
>>> a buy order and within five seconds the price was 44. 80. I said to
>>>>>>>>>>> myself its remotely possible but as soon as
I looked at real
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>> after I bougght the price was 44: 38 again
.. someone  raised it
>>>>>>>>>>> close to fifty cents after I filled in the
sell form ( just a
>>>>>>>>>>> coinciidence? LOL) and brought it down to
fifty cents seconds
>>>>>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>>>>>> ( coincidence again?)  both trades within
seconds.. This is in
>>>>>>>>>>> addition to other ways to get the traders.
Never invest in Scott
>>>>>>>>>>> trade. but of course this in addition to
other ways to get  your
>>>>>>>>>>> money and this is legal? lol Legal what?  .
Never  ever
>>> put  a stop order in its almost assured to be taken out . Never ever day
>>> trade, they know your going to pull the trigger fast so the best thing
>>> is
>>> to  wait you out till you sell for a loss which is why most day traders
>>> lose.. The market is a set up now and ploy where human beings or market
>>> makers  or brokers  play
>>> against investors accept they can't lose. Its not how good the
>>> company is its how much of real money you and I invest ... there is to
>>> be
>>> played against!!  . the human element is killing
>>> free exchange and yet no one cares. its like whistlin in the  wind...
>>> . The truth that some people can legally win by manipulating the stock
>>> price
>>> is ignored !!!!!! They can keep your stock opposite the way you went for
>>> however long  they  want
>>> and believe me they can make news to rationalize it too. Who fixes this
>>> like this?MM insiders? commission sellers?  Your guess, its built into
>>> the
>>> system. the investment sites will pump a play in one day and six months
>>> later talk how horrible the  exact site they pumped a few months ago and
>>> this is really true.
>>> They say its because of changing conditions? Ha you know what causes
>>> changing conditions? YOOUR MONEY showing up to be played against  Where
>>> does
>>> it say US stocks are all or nothing?The federal commerce  agency recent
>>> decision ( I
>>> think the exact name alludes me ftc? )that  allows Tv station owners  to
>>> increase the concentration of ownership almost  assures fewer and  fewer
>>> different owners, and different perspectives of freedom of diverse
>>> viewpoints.
>>> .. which will stifle the freedom of speech and different view  points.
>>>> and truth..They often totally ignore the reality = write about here.
>>>>> They say or some say they ignore it because its not true. It is
true
>>>>> what
>>>>> I am writing about, but don't lose your hard earned money to find
out.
>>>>> Can you gain? Sure but it takes a special investor to gain with big
>>>>> money. Now more contentions I make about how big gov and industry
fix
>>>>> things have unfair advantages
>>>
>>>  violence  and pollution is ignored in general elections and  we have
>>> basically come to expect thousands of victims with more and more people
>>> studies to show the cost of harm from all this
>>>
>>> .  Money sites talk about hidden gems that go up usually without your
>>> knowledge,  ( you know they show the stats of stocks you and your uncle
>>> never had  and you just happened to MISS! and say if you only bought
>>> such
>>> and such time) , then they talk which ones to get in now,,   rarely
>>> going up
>>> the same percentages if at all ,  but if you were to know which ones the
>>> most people put their money in I assure you the stock would stop going
>>> up
>>> that fast almost a dead certain bet...and be played against..  as the
>>> ..The ones that go up the most ...all  just happen to fall beneath the
>>> radar,  and go up when no one you knew was in it...till someone says
>>> something.like
>>> .."TILL Wall Street
>>> discovered  it" . They say get in before Wall Street Discovers
>>> it... Why woulda stock stop  going  up
>>> when  wall street discovers it? I thought the more investment the more
>>> likely to go up? OOPS  Its seriously  a giant ponzi scheme.? Of  course,
>>> now
>>> this is legal in the US as rich find more ways to rape people in the US.
>>> The
>>> pollution factor which kills people is ignored in this  country.as more
>>> and
>>> more links shows extra carbon dioxide and particulate pollution kill
>>> people.
>>> I have been saying that for years only recently has the links been made
>>> to
>>> show studies of such things yet millions of people are not told how
>>> dangerous the places they live and work harms them.. They would sooner
>>> talk
>>> about bad spinanch in Canada or out west then talk about real dangers
>>> currently happening in their own backyard. yet media can get away with
>>> it. I
>>> saw a study about depression in the Midwest. Our Kyw newsradio ran this
>>> story over and over again. Yet when I sent them a link to show here in
>>> our
>>> city we are the most depressed. they ignored it? Why because they can?
>>> They
>>> can really sell meds easier if they ignore the damage that is going on
>>> here
>>> or to not tell people why they need the meds. This is the meaness of the
>>> power of the media and society values that filter down to people.
>>> C O N T R O L and harm  is more important then truth so help me god.
>>> Face it
>>> jobs are expected from poor policies. that are allowed to go on.  The
>>> media
>>> would rather sell oil and kill their own population but then sell
>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>> nebulizers and asthma drugs all day and if
some of you only
>>>>>>>>>>> knew
>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>> pollution readings , or percentage of days
we don't  get clean
>>>>>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>>>>>> ( thats a number they don't have to do a
study for they can just
>>>>>>>>>>> say we don't ge the most pollution so stop
complaining)
>>> you would know why they need to sell this all day to some of us  and not
>>> tell you why you need these things and allow children and adults to be
>>> harmed at will and gov and industry know better.. Trust me its happening
>>> in
>>> certain areas.,  its the Gods truth. Its ok to choke and be ignored if
>>> tv
>>> news  can sell
>>> you meds.instead of telling you the consequences from this air or
>>>>>>>>>>> show harm correlations to pollution in the
area.. People say
>>>>>>>>>>> write
>>>>>>>>>>> news stations or politiicans .. I Have
almost zero answer
>>>>>>>>>>> ya..Thatsthe mentality of the meaness of
society now. Of course
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> consolidation of news stations almost assures all these things I write
>>> about  to continue .The federal commerce agency recent decision ( I
>>> think
>>> the exact name alludes me ftc maybe )that  allows Tv station  owners to
>>> increase the concentration of ownership almost  assures fewer and fewer
>>> different owners, and less different perspectives of freedom  of diverse
>>> viewpoints.=and objectivity.
>>> ..They often totally ignore the reality I
>>> write bout here. The violence in society is often  ignored in general
>>> elections by  politicians and national news  and  we have basically come
>>> to
>>> expect over 189,000 shootings against our family members withoutdoing
>>> anything different year after year. Whats amazing is the spin when
>>>>>>>>>>> they say violence is down. Down 10 percent
this year.. in some
>>>>>>>>>>> cities! and its still
>>> more still then most of the world  but thats not
>>> even talked about ! Its amazing ! Why? Its a given 100,000 people
>>> in the US
>>> will be shot or killed each year, .30to 50 k will die from murder
>>> or suicide Why should the people inpower care, they live in
>>>
>>> in gated communities.. If its not happening to them,, they don't
>>>>>>>>>>> care..
>>>>>>>>>>> basically only the rich get
>>>>>>>>>>> elected to office and rich keep
consolidating and distancing
>>>>>>>>>>> themselves
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else. Only John McMCcain has
talked about election
>>>>>>>>>>> reform.
>>>>>>>>>>> Oil, pharmacies, credit card and loan
companis all
>>> can't lose getting more rules to be able to take wealth from the
>>> working class with outrageous fees that are allowed to keep
>>> multiplying. I literally had a bill for something for 8 dollars go to
>>>
>>> $800
>>> after accumulated late fees and interest, Its legal robbery. If
>>> a store clerk could get away at selling something for such a profit
>>>>>>>>>>> on such a low price item they would hold
him for gauging. In
>>> american the rich  and oil companies and brokers get to do it legally
>>> and
>>> they
>>> get to do it  daily . How in the hell can they then get more legislation
>>> to
>>> keep getting more ways to
>>> collect? Our congress gives em more ways to collect also
>>> . We have violence that is worse then many terrorist
>>> countries so anything is possible. and its totally ignored in our press
>>>>>>>>>> My Hillbilly friends tell me we are at that
awkward time when it
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> too late for them to fix things, but still too
early to drag the
>>>>>>>>>> bastards out to be shot.
>>>>>>>>> As long as they are not physically going after you
consider
>>>>>>>>> yourself
>>>>>>>>> lucky
>>>>>>>>> especially if you believed in doing the right
things and have
>>>>>>>>> watched
>>>>>>>>> depressing things happen to your stocks and
neighborhoods.
>>>>>>>>> We have an economy based on people like this who
manipulate stocks
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> tells
>>>>>>>>> you what you don't want to hear in order to gain
from your
>>>>>>>>> investment..its
>>>>>>>>> that simple.. If this really happens imagine what
else they can do
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> Finally there are millions without jobs,
>>> Big companies do away with more operators and use electronic answering
>>> devices that seldom work. If after 20 minutes an operator does come on
>>> they
>>> hang up on you if your not there after waiting so long talking to a
>>> machine
>>> that seldome recognizes what you just said.
>>> Why must people talk to a machine that seldom recognizes what the caller
>>> (us) is answering! Its amazing how many companies and gov. uses this to
>>> keep
>>> people on telephon  foreever before someone live answers. Its not like
>>> people can't do the same job better because they can!  Why hire people?
>>> Easier to poison them and rip them off like in stocks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> there are people who get
>>> commercial
>>>> after commerical for nebulizers and have to breathe polluted air every
>>>>>>>> second of their life or much more then people in other
areas who
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> clean air. . The largest
>>> differences in health is often based on the pollution factor. The
>>> peoplewho
>>> ate the same things, but live in polluted areas near crowded
>>>>>>>> streets or malls
>>> with much traffic or near truck depots and or bus depots and or downwind
>>> from coal have much more illness then
>>> the people who live in clean air.  but no one tells them these things. .
>>> there are people who can't afford food or health
>>> care, yet we bring millions more people here who often need help also!!!
>>> Everybody hates one another and
>>> only
>>> millionaire gets elected. Market makers have a license to steal from
>>> investors. You never ever day trade or have a stop loss order. its
>>>>>>>> automatically taken out and not one Congressional
investigation.
>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>>> more money to oil and energy then anything in your life
often
>>>>>>>> combined
>>> while millions live in poverty.. so why you surprised?
>>>>>>>> Remember this about stocks
>>>>>>>> "> go. The giant up factor is usually when your
not in them. They
>>>>>>>> literally
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> track your investment knowing your trading history
and when your
>>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>>> to sell.
>>>>>> The republican role models and democrats
>>>>>>> who do nothing about crime, immigration ,dependency on
terror,
>>>>>>> violent
>>>>>>> crime, murder,
>>>>>>> dependency on court
>>>>>>> systems,hate,  pollution and oil , coal, and stock scams.
Our role
>>>>>>> models
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> left
>>>>>>> us.I repeat our role models have left us.! They just ignore
the
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> who are the real victims and who can't afford to voice
opinions.
>>>>>>> Most
>>>>>>> people have no clue what some cities welfare lines look
like and yet
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> virtually ignored along with the people who don't have
jobs.
>>>>>>> God help us
>>>>>>> Are there agood things about US?  yes but lets be honest
what is
>>>>>>> happening
>>>>>>> now .kids come to school with guns, one of the largest
cause of
>>>>>>> death
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> women in the US is murder. millions not counted out of work
 or
>>>>>>> unemployed. Many thousands of kids have violent video games
and WW
>>>>>>> wrestling as their role models. Social security
>>> is going to have to be in debt for decades to pay people who are going
>>> to
>>> need  it
>>> to survive.
>>>  stocks fixed, pollution damage ignored, global warming ignored,
>>>>>>>> immigration
>>>>>>>> ignored, violent crime ignored by all major candidates
( not
>>>>>>>> politically
>>>>>>>> correct), unemployment  all virtually ignored by our
politicians
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> press , who virtually put out what they want you to
see, not that
>>>>>>>> which is most important ..along with Britney Spears and
movie
>>>>>>>> stars,
>>>>>>>> and the weather ,
>>>>>>>> not reality. People seem so cold hearted and controlled
like
>>>>>>>> robots,
>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>> the old movie time machine and see how people don't
care anymore in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> future.. and they
>>>>>>>> become emotionless and if you do care the leaders come
after
>>>>>>>> you..Get
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> movie and play it back and you tell me if you don't
think our
>>>>>>>> leaders
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> like that and people too ... People are immune from
responding
>>>>>>>> cause
>>>>>>>> they are use to it : can we say control and this
control filters to
>>> even
>>> workers at welfare where some ( not all ) of he workers treat their
>>>>>>>> clients with total diserespect.
>>> Kids and their  families are often treated like dirt because they need
>>>>>>>> help and workers are not trained right or do what they
want.. Some
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> very good though just so you know I am very objective
... so  you
>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>> how abuse of control filters
>>> down to kids ( bullying) and even people who are suppose to help...and
>>> end
>>> up putting people at risk down? Do we have a system in place to help
>>> people
>>> at risk earlier? Or do we just let the kids join gangs and continue the
>>> violent spin off?
>>>
>>> about stocks..
>>>
>>>
>>> saw such set up and controls  and
>>>>> stocks go up and down so fast.. Make
>>>>> no
>>>>> mistake our kids think control is what motivates. Why do kids
bully?
>>>>> Look
>>>>> around! Everything in the US is controlled based on how much money
you
>>>>> have
>>>>> or what you look like or how much power you can accumulate over
>>>>> others.
>>>>> The people without are totally ignored everyday.. treated like
>>>>> crap.....We
>>>>> are honestly slowly destroying ourselves. because the disparity
>>>>> between
>>>>> winners and losers and victims keeps increasing.  If your a victim
>>>>> thats
>>>>> the price you
>>>>> pay by being ignored.
>>>>>>>> Reporters  would sooner ask question I want answered as
the Tooth
>>>>>>>> fairy.
>>>>>>>> The idea of
>>>>>>>> tv
>>>>>>>> and  news
>>>>>>>> is to get cute
>>>>>>>> people to laugh all day and
>>>>>>>> talk about everything but the news like gossip talk
shows  and
>>>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>>> Springer type shows...They make their own questions and
know you
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> watch and form conclusions based on what they tell you.
. If your
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>>> state or another
>>>>>>>> country, know we are virtually not free anymore.
Corporations and
>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>> oil
>>>>>>>> has taken our freedoms away.Our country is getting more
mean
>>>>>>>> spirited,
>>>>>>>> WW
>>>>>>>> wrestling is becoming main stream,
>>>>>>>> Wealth is not created equally. Our role models have
left or are
>>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>> drug enhancment pills, viagra or betting on their own
games.
>>>>>>>> All I ever wanted was a job, good quality air without
seeing people
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>>> and myself gasp for air or get disease thru policy  ,
and go to
>>>>>>>> sleep
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> night without
>>>>>>>> worrying if my family members who I love dearly are
going to be
>>>>>>>> murdered.that night or the next day. our life is often
but not
>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>> about decpetions and control. . Seriously the next
biggest concern
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> besides crime is
>>>>>>>> depression meds and how am I going to pay for health
care and
>>>>>>>> transportation
>>>>>>>> costs.. Forget a job, no one responded to any job
offers for years.
>>>>>>>> Go
>>>>>>>> outside see thousands of
>>>>>>>> people often poor people who look stunned. at bus
stops. They have
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>> for jobs. People in suburbia have no clue except when
crime comes
>>>>>>>> close
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> them. We do virtually nothing to stop the progression
of these
>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>> People ask what can we do against crime? PLenty.. stop and
frisk.
>>>>>> cameras,
>>>>>> teachers might teach about dysfunction in schools so parents
and kids
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> identify
>>>>>> danger before they are  in jeopardy. Do we empower kids to take
back
>>>>>> control of their life in dysfunctional  situations or do we let
gangs
>>>>>> take
>>>>>> control for
>>>>>> them? Are social workers trained correctly? Are families
encouraged
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> stay together? . >>
>>>>>
>>>>> We should
>>>>>> literally tortue child and cop killers and put them away for
>>>>>> life. death penalty don't work. Torture is when good people
hear
>>>>>> horrible
>>>>>> stories how women and kids are murdered. It seems to keep going
on
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> word from politicians. The expectation of 40 thousand people
murdered
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> shooting
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> hundreds of thousand s of people in the us every year goes on
inspite
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> advances in technology in every other area.Not one idea to do
>>>>>> anything
>>>>>> different!!!!!One of the top causes of death
>>>>>> for yg women is murder. Some people in cities fear losing their
>>>>>> health
>>>>>> paying for bread, being put down, and violent crime. and losing
their
>>>>>> life
>>>>>> just for existing and the news media is pretty much ignoring
all
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>> Why because they can and many of these people just don't have
access
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> speak out.
>>> First of all we are country held hostage for oil and oil producers. I
>>>>>>>>> pledge alliance to oil , pollution and dependency
on Arab
>>>>>>>>> production
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>> pay more for it then everything In life and then we are bombed for
>>> it..Man Face it when the same stations use the same stories over and
>>> over
>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> over at the same time and ignore others.
you know its more then
>>>>>>>>>>> coincidence. Their idea
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> a story is Britney Spears and weather
forecasts
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many people have families who look out for one thing, getting
>>>>>>>>> bye
>>>>>>>>> with enough food and health care,
>>>>>>>>> without some drug induced nutcase killing or raping
someone else.
>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>> can you blame someone who sees the same things I
see? Drugs or
>>>>>>>>> depression
>>>>>>>>> drugs are almost a necessity. There are more people
taking more
>>>>>>>>> deprression meds then in history.. Is the US based
on doing the
>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>> things anymore or is it based on who can make the
best mouse
>>>>>>>>> traps?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------
>>>> we need to stop global warming now. we need rules where rich can't keep
>>>> accumulating a greater percent of wealth at the expense of those who
>>>> are
>>>> not.
>>>> Epas rating is not true or helping people adequately protect families!
>>>> so
>>>> help me god.. Moderate particulate pollution harms a great deal
>>>> of people. This is simply another way to get people to accept the
>>>> damages
>>>> of
>>>> a modern society. Is there a God anymore. Do people actually care about
>>>> helping people maximize their existence. Or are people paying with
>>>> their
>>>> life for decisions they had no power of. First never smoke, I did and
>>>> this
>>>> is one reason I am more sensitive to damages now . I am convinced
>>>> though,
>>>> the sensitivity I feel has led to me to now know what causes the most
>>>> damages from air conditions and pollution. I then went on to examine
>>>> whatever studies were made to show damages from pollution and where,
>>>> and
>>>> completely UNSURPRISING I think there is great cause to show that
>>>> people
>>>> living and working in polluted conditions are not only losing their
>>>> health,
>>>> it could be proved its based on how much pollution and or how much
>>>> clean
>>>> air
>>>> they don't get , IN DIRECT Proportion when all things were compared to
>>>> people who got good and bad air and ate the same things and had the
>>>> same
>>>> good habits.
>>>> People are much more at risk simply living or working  on streets with
>>>> crowded traffic or near idling cars like fast food restaurants.
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> People in the US are self destructing.
>>>> mcsantpollution@yahoo.com
>>>> Our role models have left us
>>>> We take drug enhancement pills , kids come to school with guns, we have
>>>> more
>>>> murders then most of world including terrorist countries. Murder is the
>>>> leading cause of death for women in the US in some age groups. Drug use
>>>> is
>>>> starting to increase. Many people are unemployed and not counted.
>>>> Pollution
>>>> numbers and descriptions from epa are not protecting people!
>>>> .., rich get more rules
>>>> to charge you interest. and keep distancing themselves from people who
>>>> are
>>>> poor. You have to be a millionaire to run for Senate or
>>>> Congress almost. Oil prices have sabotaged business. News media
>>>> consolidation ignores most everything important. while the world hates
>>>> by
>>>> religion and nothing is done about it,, and arming to the bones more
>>>> ways
>>>> to
>>>> destroy each other..some of it is political and economics too but
>>>> instead
>>>> of
>>>> dealing with it we ignore it. . the affects from pollution are
>>>> horrific (some of you have
>>>> no idea what day after day without good air does to you, ) We are
>>>> destroying
>>>> ourselves and the same people made to breathe it have to pay more to
>>>> doctors
>>>> to treat conditions they were not responsible for getting. You will see
>>>> thousands of studies for different conditions that causes illness but
>>>> few
>>>> about pollution damage. The greatest conspiracy I have ever seen in my
>>>> lifetimes. .What ,is going
>>>> on here? help someone help. stocks are manipulated and allowed to be
>>>> played
>>>> against by insiders, Its not how good a company is its how much of your
>>>> money shows up in a stock and insiders and market makers allowed to
>>>> then
>>>> find reasons to bet against you and this is legal! unbelievable.
>>>>
http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r31/mlarry51/?action=view&current=filter2.jpg
>>>> need someone to listen to care, Our people are being murdered, being
>>>> poisoned by coal and exhaust conditions without more being down. How do
>>>> I
>>>> know? My lungs constrict everyday. I have air filters that turn black
>>>> in
>>>> less then 30 days.. I want an investigation about what is going on
>>>> here. I
>>>> seriously have tried to do the best in my life and now I am thinking
>>>> there
>>>> were things I couldnt' get past and people are being unfairly not
>>>> protected
>>>> from refinery and industry pollution  and auto exhausts and so many
>>>> days
>>>> without clean air.
>>>> Warmer temperatures where If you remember our past winters, this is
>>>> like
>>>> the twilightzone. Temperatures are often ten degrees warmer. We are
>>>> getting
>>>> most depression and respiratory disease with commercials for allergy
>>>> and
>>>> respiratory meds and inhalers without a news or big business telling
>>>> you
>>>> why
>>>> we need it. Please can we get investigators over here please. What is
>>>> going
>>>> on in the us now? what ? what is happening where we get more crime
>>>> vandalism, and people not graduating.. and crime after crime! What is
>>>> happening , what has happened in the past.? We need comparisons to
>>>> people
>>>> who get clean air. Please someone help..this is totally outrageous our
>>>> kids
>>>> are not being protected and we have so many negatives going on here.
>>>> Please
>>>> we need lawyers now , and
>>>> investigators and researchers. Please this is unbelievable
>>>> remember I told you so  Our teams seldom win, American Idol  was in
>>>> Philly
>>>> and someone with clean air in Oregon  and California got the best
>>>> reviews.
>>>> Out of thousands of people , Philly people were not very good. The
>>>> negative
>>>> Philly people were showcased ( half were borderline or schizophrenic) .
>>>> If
>>>> and I say this with all seriousness, we were examined compared to rest
>>>> of
>>>> people with clean air our health would show additionally how harmed we
>>>> have
>>>> been from this pollution both physically and mentally.  I now am
>>>> completely
>>>> beside myself with harm done and I want comparisons to show
>>>> productivity
>>>> and
>>>> how much more so then people who got clean air. I seriously think we
>>>> need
>>>> a
>>>> great lawyer to show how the most days without clean air, affected the
>>>> people here.  The most incredible poisoning that is allowed to continue
>>>> for
>>>> years . Most days without good air. A very violent city , A very
>>>> depressed
>>>> city, more cancers and heart disease. Number one in asthma and
>>>> respiratory
>>>> disease  and its all ignored. God help --\
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> We
>>>> need to get lawyers to stop this pollution now and
>>>> stop the dirty coal now not in 2020, to change our percent of gasoline,
>>>> to
>>>> innovate ways to immediate help kids not harm families.Please read on
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071228/ap_on_re_us/aging_west
>>>>>
>>>>> as long as your sitting ducks for asthma and lung institutes and
>>>>> cancer
>>>>> hospitals and more and more hospital annexes and directly in path
of
>>>>> coal
>>>>> pollution, oil refineries and concentrated exhausts with a city
>>>>> prettty
>>>>> much
>>>>> in denial about how to remedy it or to not even care about
worsening
>>>>> traffic conditions to maybe improve
>>>>> things. I see the exact same things happeening here for coming ten
>>>>> years.
>>>>> ,
>>>>> You can bank on your kids getting more pollution, , more violence,
>>>>> (then
>>>>> average) kids not learning,  and horrible health ratings and ads to
>>>>> target
>>>>> you from illness put upon you for no reason then because
politicians
>>>>> let
>>>>> it
>>>>> happen.
>>>>> cares. Saw that guy Chitwood from homicide talk about murder or cab
>>>>> driver
>>>>> ( another murder how surprising) the guy who is probably over 50
also
>>>>> looks
>>>>> way older then his
>>>>> years. and its a shame,, seems like a good guy At a certain point
if
>>>>> you
>>>>> can
>>>>> tell me how to do well in retiirement or
>>>>> anyother way when we have the least percentage of days with good
air
>>>>> then
>>>>> most big cities and number 2 in state for asthma and green house
>>>>> pollution,,, . You would then not  be surprised we are number one
for
>>>>> asthma
>>>>> ,
>>>>> respiratory disease, respiratory death and higher then normal in
>>>>> cancers
>>>>> heart disease and number one in nation for depression. We do
horrible
>>>>> in
>>>>> education and we are one of the worse for violence .most of all
your
>>>>> not
>>>>> told any of this by your newstations
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> when you ignore the number one city or two city  with asthma and
>>>>> respiratory
>>>>> deaths and respiratory prescriptions and when you can compare our
>>>>> number
>>>>> of
>>>>> health commercials with other cities and when your graphs also show
>>>>> the
>>>>> number of days we get good air in total to other communities then I
>>>>> might
>>>>> believe but I know what they are . For example one graph said
Philly
>>>>> had
>>>>> 200
>>>>> days of good air last year, which was totally outrageous lies. It
may
>>>>> have
>>>>> reached good but many if not most of those days were in moderate
zone
>>>>> or
>>>>> worse most of the time. . Thats one way of getting to say whatever
you
>>>>> want
>>>>> without showing the reality of the situation.
>>>>>
>>>>> this is the link to air pollution and danger in exercising in it.
>>>>> http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=healthcheck&idV53450
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070914/ap_on_sc/smog_study;_ylt=Aivfwa5A9fYk4.Q4F5tPYP2s0NU
E
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070918/hl_afp/ushealthvirusclimate
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jul2007/clim-j19.shtml
>>>>
>>>>>
http://www.megaportal.us/newsa/Avril.php?ArticleID=X3uu1Y3x2v1xG1Y1Z2k383e3
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?SI35559
>>>>>
>>>>> us life expectency falls to 42nd
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2147617,00.html
>>>>>
>>>>> now heart disease worsens because of it.
>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/heart_pollution_dc
>>>>>
>>>>> pollution and heart disease
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ionizers.org/Heart-Disease.html
>>>>>
>>>>> parituclate pollution dangers
>>>>> Ultra-fine particulate matter has been linked with premature death,
>>>>> cardiovascular disease and respiratory illness, according to the
>>>>> California
>>>>> Air Resources Board. Though it takes Americans an average of 25
>>>>> minutes
>>>>> to
>>>>> drive to work, according to 2005 U.S. Census Bureau figures, the
board
>>>>> estimates that over 50% of a person's daily exposure to ultra-fine
>>>>> particles
>>>>> can occur during a commute.
>>>>>
>>>>> Likewise, a 2005 study by researchers at the University of Southern
>>>>> California's Keck School of Medicine showed that long-term exposure
to
>>>>> ambient particulate matter may contribute to atherosclerosis, the
>>>>> hardening
>>>>> and narrowing of the arteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Particle pollution kills people, whether they're breathing it
in over
>>>>> a
>>>>> short period or day in and day out for a year," Nolen says.
"It's not
>>>>> like
>>>>> being hit by a car, but it shortens the lives of people by months
to
>>>>> years."
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if you live in a city with low pollution levels, don't kid
>>>>> yourself;
>>>>> that doesn't necessarily mean your commute is healthy. A 2007
report
>>>>> by
>>>>> the
>>>>> Clean Air Task Force that investigated diesel exhaust levels during
>>>>> commutes
>>>>> in New York, Boston, Austin, Texas, and Columbus, Ohio, documented
>>>>> diesel
>>>>> particle levels four to eight times higher inside commuter cars,
buses
>>>>> and
>>>>> trains than in those cities' ambient outdoor air.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only commutes found to be low in diesel exposure were those on
>>>>> electric-powered subways and commuter trains, buses running on
>>>>> alternative
>>>>> fuels or retrofitted with diesel particulate filters, and in cars
>>>>> traveling
>>>>> with little truck traffic
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Exercising in polluted air causes harm
>>>>>
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-rock-positano/exercising-outdoors-in-ma_b_66171.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> DEATHS caused by pollution
>>>>>
>>>>> Dying For a Change -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's one small reason to join the save-the-environment cause: new
>>>>> research indicates that some 40 percent of deaths worldwide are a
>>>>> direct effect of air, water, and soil pollution. Dirty air
contributes
>>>>> to cancer and birth defects; unclean water accounts for 80 percent
of
>>>>> all infectious diseases; and contaminated soil passes toxics to
>>>>> unwitting humans through direct contact or via food. According to
>>>>> researchers' review of data from more than 120 published papers,
>>>>> pollution combined with population growth contributes to
>>>>> malnourishment and disease susceptibility in 3.7 billion people, or
>>>>> about 57 percent of the world population. In 1950, when a mere 2.5
>>>>> billion humans roamed the earth, only 20 percent of the population
was
>>>>> malnourished. Says lead researcher David Pimentel, "We have
serious
>>>>> environmental resource problems of water, land, and energy, and
these
>>>>> are now coming to bear on food production, malnutrition, and the
>>>>> incidence of diseases."
>>>>>
>>>>> straight to the source: Science Daily, 14 Aug 2007
>>>>>
>>>>> straight to the source: The Ithaca Journal, Topher Sanders, 13 Aug
>>>>> 2007
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> assume people walk for a cure while not possibly realizing or
caring
>>>>> they
>>>>> are doing more harm possibly by taking long walks and living in
>>>>> polluted
>>>>> air
>>>>> , or not worrying about their diet  then worrying  about a drugs
and
>>>>> hospitals looking for a cure i. Maybe they don't need to give
medical
>>>>> centers more money , because I can't think of a single drug that
will
>>>>> reverse asthma or probably other cancers once they get it from the
>>>>> environment (if that can be proven). Since
>>>>>
>>>>> The
>>>>> biggest differences in quality of health when everything else is
the
>>>>> same
>>>>> like diet and  bad habits  is the differences between people who
live
>>>>> and
>>>>> work  in polluted air near coal and industry and refineries the
most
>>>>> time
>>>>> and those that don't. , People who wait in long traffic lines and
live
>>>>> near
>>>>> crowded malls or work in heavy traffic are much much more prone ot
>>>>> lives
>>>>> of
>>>>> devastation from illness and yet they are rarely connected to the
>>>>> pollution
>>>>> levels and this is in fact on purpose. What I have seen in the last
>>>>> twenty
>>>>> years is babies crying more often , people who sleep less, people
who
>>>>> get
>>>>> more depression , asthma and respiratory illness often at exactly
no
>>>>> fault
>>>>> of their own and politicians and newsmakers completely in together
in
>>>>> ignoring the implications. The most incredible indifference to
human
>>>>> suffering I have ever seen in my life. continues... so help me
>>>>> god.well
>>>>> what
>>>>> if its a multiple choice of reasons. Face it some people were born
>>>>> too sensitive or different but I can't prove it. What I think I
have
>>>>> done
>>>>> greatly is alerted as many people as possible about the dangers of
>>>>> pollution
>>>>> (coal , transportation exhausts) , global warming and subsequent
ill
>>>>> effects
>>>>> ignored for the most part by the people who have the ability to
lessen
>>>>> them.. Whats that say about this world? I had to scream every day
and
>>>>> tell
>>>>> people I can't breathe which I couldn't before someone did some
things
>>>>> but
>>>>> the percentage of time people get good air is still too few. That
>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>> be so bad had it not been the case they are cheated out of good
health
>>>>> and
>>>>> still are and not told. Why should I care If they don't? It says
the
>>>>> world
>>>>> is a very depressing place to live if we default to harming people
and
>>>>> when
>>>>> people complain , make a timeline for 2020 to fix it while the
people
>>>>> who
>>>>> profit by it get to keep doing it. . what kind of role models do we
>>>>> get
>>>>> for
>>>>> allowing this to happen. I am saying people in PHilly and pa are
being
>>>>> allowed to lose their health for no good reason when so much more
can
>>>>> be
>>>>> done now. ( also in many other areas close to pollution and on east
>>>>> coast.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ps I say to all Israelis get out of Israel now, your going to be
>>>>>destroyed,
>>>>>I sense it and feel it and with all the craziness and arming in the
>>>>>world
>>>>>its not if , its when. The people in the world are insane and can't
>>>>>seem
>>>>>to
>>>>>get along with each other, and ignores many things to justify power.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> pposite your big money!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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