Re: FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! -- Felons say Supreme Court's ruling means

<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:11:41 -0500, "SaPeIsMa"
<SaPeIsMa@Hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>><retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:13:29 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>>> <Noemail@comcast.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you aren't going to claim that it's legal to yell
"Fire!!!" in a
>>>>>> crowded theatre, you are just going to go on and on claiming
I'm
>>>>>> wrong saying that it is illegal?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not illegal to yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater.
>>>
>>>
>>> I hate to back Bonde, but sure  it is.  If you incite a riot or cause
>>> chaos resulting in injury you can expect charges such as criminal
>>> mischief, disturbing the peace, and /or others to be brought against
>>> you.
>>>
>>
>>Since when is yellibng "fire" in a theater, AUTOMATICALLY "
inciting a
>>riot
>>or causing chaos resulting in injury"
>>Also, what if it's part of the play ?
>>    Is that also "illegal" ?
>>
>>And you're also confusing "illegal" with "subsequent
liability"
>
> Subsequent jail time makes it a crime fool.  There are lots of
> provision that could be stretched to cover yelling fire in a theater.
> Disturbing the peace comes to mind readily.
>

The funny thing about the English language is that terms like
"yelling FIRE !" and "disturbing the peace" are NOT synonymous
That means that they are NOT the same meaning



>>The fact that you may suffer consequence AFTER THE FACT, does NOT make
>>something illegal
>
> When that consequence is jail or prison time it is. Sheesh.
>



>>And it's NOT "illegal" because there is NO LAW saying that you cannot
do
>>it.
>
> Is your imagination really that shallow?
>

Thank you for confirming that all your arguments are based on "imagination"
instead of fact


>
>>    (Try the concept of free speech as a starter)
>
> There are numerous limits to free speech - time and place. Libel is a
> crime. Perjury. As is incitement to violence. Terroristic threats,
> Etc., etc. go read, enjoy:
>

You are still unclear on the concept that the law is not able to deter an
act BEFORE the fact
It can only punish the act AFTER the fact

Notice the words "before" and "after"
Too bad those concepts, albeit simple, stump you
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