IT IS HAPPENING HERE!! THE FALL OF AMERICA TO RADICALISM!!
Von: death from above (cerebureaucracy@hotmail.com) [Profil]
Datum: 03.10.2008 03:19
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Datum: 03.10.2008 03:19
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Some people wonder how a great civilization like Russia turned to communism. And, how did a nation with so many well-educated people like Germany bring Hitler to power? And, many have been asking, 'can it happen here?' When we look at the Obama phenomenon, the answer is yes. Indeed, it is happening. And, it's even more pathetic than with the Russians and Germans. Though Russia was a great civilization, most of its people were ignorant and uneducated. And, Russia had done through 3 years of war which killed millions and destroyed the economy. People became desperate and supported the communists who promised land, peace, and bread. As for the Germans, we must keep in mind that they resisted the radicals of both left and right for 25 years. Germans from 1918 to 1933 went through perhaps the worst economic crisis in modern European history--at least in Western/Central Europe--, but for the most part, they tried to stick to democracy. But, the Great Depression that rocked the world in 1929 and got worse in the early 30s drove more Germans to vote for Hitler. Even so, Hitler only got 35% of the vote in 1933. So, Germans turned to radicalism ONLY because they were in the throes of hell. They turned a blind eye to the dark sides of Nazism because they were hungry for bread, work, and social order. And, of course, the Nazis and their supporters were careful to conceal or underplay the more radical ideas of National Socialism. And, there were SA thugs in the streets to brutalize the opponents of the Nazis. Anyway, both Russia and Germany turned to radicalism in truly dire times when the sky seemed to be falling. But, what can we say about Americans who are turning to a closet- Marxist in a time of relatively mild economic downtown? Most Americans must know that Obama is the student of Wright and Ayers. Obama's core philosophy is far leftism. Like Hitler, he's chose opportunism and made alliances and won the support of Mainstream people by 'not making sudden moves'. But, it's all an act. In his core, Obama is a black nationalist and a Marxist. Also, an international Marxist who wanted to transfer 350 billion dollars of American tax payer money in the next 4 yrs to the third world--mostly Africa. For 20 yrs, he had no problem listening to the sermons, lectures, and diatribes of Jeremiah Wright. He sought out Bill Ayers the domestic Marxist terrorist on his own. Of course, the media have not covered this much. The media will say they did cover some of it but it didn't gain 'much traction', and so they dropped it. But, it didn't gain much traction because the media let it go after mentioning it a few times. The media decides what does or doesn't have traction. If the media had brought up the issue over and over, it would have gained traction. Suppose McCain has ties to far-right figures. If the media covers it once or twice and then drop it, it won't have much traction. But, if the media cover it night and day, week after week, month after month, it gains traction. Bill Ayers connection hasn't gained much traction because Media have not attached wheels to it. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy on the part of the media. They underreport or hide certain stories, and then they say they didn't cover it much because it didn't have much traction. 99% of the time, 'traction' of any news story is a matter of what the media do with them. Also, Obama's connections to Ayers and Wright are so distressing and disturbing that it was irresponsible on the media to cover it just mildly. Obama didn't just know those people passingly but was part of their life and career. So, the media have been to Obama what Goebbels had been to Hitler: the Ministry of Propaganda. When Trent Lott made the speech at Strom Thurmond's 100th birthday, the media went crazy over it. When the Duke Lacrosse 'scandal' happened, the media went totally crazy and covered all night and day week after week(though the media suppressed the Knoxville massacre where a gang of blacks attacked, raped, and murdered a white couple). THAT gave traction to those stories. But, the media have not done the same with Ayers or Wright. They have not given us long news stories about the true natures of these men, what they've done, what they've stood for, etc. or what their relation with Obama has been. For this reason, many people still don't know what Ayers or Wright have done in life or what they really represent. Where is the 20/20 or 60 Minutes special on the life of Ayers and what he may have taught Obama? Of course, the media are the way they are because journalism schools are run by liberals and leftists. Columbia school of journalism is one of the most prestigious, and guess who is one of its top professors? Victor Navasky, an editor at The Nation magazine who, like Obama and Ayers, is a closet-Marxist. Navasky is the man who, against all mounting evidence, argued that the likes of Alger Hiss, Rosenbergs, etc were all innocent and merely victims of a red-baiting witchhunt. And, these professors taught our top journalists. So, most of our top journalists have come under the tutelage or influence of Marxists and fellow-travelers. Victor Navasky is simply Bill Ayers who teaches journalism. And, we can guess as to what he's been teaching his students over the years. So, we have a media made up of people taught and trained by radicals. Why would these people try to OUT the real Obama when they secretly share his radical ideas and values? Also, it must be understood that for the Left, lying is not only a necessity but a virtue in politics . All politicians have to lie sometimes. They know it's a necessary evil. But, there is an honor principle that lying must be the last resort. With the Left and other radicals, lying is a necessary GOOD. Despite their claim to help the people, they really look upon the people as idiots who need to be led by all-knowing radical intellectuals and controlled by all-powerful bureaucrats. So, they'll lie to the people anyway, anytime, anyhow to gain power. It's been said that the Clintons lied TOO EASILY, but the same could be said for Obama. McCain doesn't seem comfortable when he tells political lies. And, Bush trips over himself when he has to lie. And, Romney looks awkward when he lies and flipflops. But, Obama seems most at home when he lies and lies and lies. And, the media don't call him on this lies becausel, wink wink, they see it as part of the radical plan to take power. And, Saul Alinsky didn't start this. It goes back to Lenin and Trotsky. Leftist intellectuals regard themselves as knowing The Truth and having The Solutions. They feel that most people are too stupid, ignorant, dumb, reactionary, and 'bitter' to handle The Truth--just like children can't either. Parents or adults feel justified in lying to kids because kids have to be 'protected' and 'looked out for'. Parents must have power over children and censor the 'truth' for them. Children are too dumb for The Truth. This is the leftist view of most Americans. We are too stupid to have so much freedom and independence. We are not only ruining ourselves, we are not only ruining our own nation, but we are ruining the entire world with our infantile greed. The easiest way for adults to gain power over kids is through fear. Since leftists can't scare us like the old communists did--threatening to send us to labor camps--, they scare us that if we don't put them in office, the Big Bad Bogeyman will come and devour us. So, we need their compassion, guidance, and portection. For the left, lying is a virtue. It is a proud rulebook tactic. It's like Lenin and Trotsky promising land, freedom, peace, and bread to gain power, and then turning the people into slaves. It's all there in Animal Farm. Pigs know everything and other animals must follow the pigs on faith. Just notice the way Obama lies and lies and without any conscience whatsoever. And, look at how the media go along with his lies. Some say the Media are kool aid drinkers, but they know what they are doing. They are more like Kool Aid suppliers. Take the whole charade about Obama and religion. Most liberals and all leftists are not religious. Obama joined the church--the most marxist and radical one at that--only because he knew that the people--the suckers--were religious. The people at Newsweek and Time have been trashing religion for decades. So, why are they promoting Obama as a man of faith--when they poo-pooed Bush whenever he mentioned God? It's because the liberal and leftist elite look upon the people as stupid. Since people are stupid and religious, why not use the theme of religion to make Obama appealing to the 'religous retards'? That is their game. This is not about Obama or secular liberals serving God, but about making God serve Obama. The media charge the Republicans for acting as though God is on their side, but the liberal media have been telling us that God is on Obama's side. It's all a lie and a charade. You'd think Obama would be embarassed with all of this, but it doesn't faze him because his radical rulebook extols lying and deceit as a virtue in politics. Indeed, lying is as cool to leftists as espionage was for the Soviet Union. It's not a necessary evil but necessary good. Again, all sides lie. But, there's lying as necessity and lying as virtue and as a PERMANENT STRATETGY. Trotsky spoke of permanent revolution, and Antonio Gramsci the Italian Marxist spoke of 'cultural hegemony'. Cultural Hegemony really amounts to permanent lying. Unlike Leninism, Cultural Hegemonism seeks to gain power through the institutions of capitalism and 'bourgeois' democracy. Radicals would go into business, get fancy education, gain access to institutions, and work from within--like termites--to bring down or radically change the system. If open and honest Khrushchev said, 'we will bury you', the likes of Obama thinks 'we will burrow into you--and change you from inside'. Since the radicals took over the academia and the media, our most intelligent, talented, and creative people in the arts, entertainment, etc tend to be of liberal and leftist stripe. And, anti-intellectualism, non-intellectualism, and uncultured-ism on the part of conservatives didn't challenge this order. It's truly embarassing that an average anti-Western/anti-American leftist does more to create culture and study Western culture than an average conservative whose idea of culture is TV, Nascar, Hollywood movies made by liberals, etc. Your average conservative knows and cares far less about the great cultural achievements of the West--arts, music, literature, philosophy, etc--than your average leftist. Indeed, many conservatives knock people who care about culture as 'elitists'. There is bad elitism but there is also good elitism, but conservatives seemed to have forgotten that. Anyway, cultural hegemonism can only work through deceit and lying because radicals seek to gain power THROUGH than directly AGAINST the capitalist/democratic system. So, they must use lingo that appeals to the mainstream--vaguer the better: change, hope, reform, etc, which can mean anything to anyone. This has also been the strategy of ACORN. And, these people and organizations don't feel any guilt, any shame, any doubt. Indeed, they feel pride. They have such contempt and hatred for the capitalist/bourgeois system that they feel absolutely justified in telling whatever lies to get more power. Honesty and directness are as anathema to them as earnestness is to a jazz musician. Honesty is lame. Shame is lame. All that matters is the radical will and style to lie in order to gain power. Anyway, Lenin and Hitler, two radicals who hid their true agendas, came to power during times of tremendous duress. But, the idea that Americans are willing to vote for an obviously deceitful closet- Marxist, black nationalist, and international welfare-ist just because we're facing an economic downtown is truly pathetic. Are we so stupid that we are willing to believe and swallow the vague 'mainstream' Obama over what he really is? The record is all there to see. Obama's first Book should be called Dreams of My Struggle. And, his second book was inspired by Wright, who's no better than a black Hitler. It ought to be called Audacity of Hate. We are about to elect someone who chose the likes of Wright as his mentor. Was Goebbels, Himmler, or Hess any better than Hitler? If not, why is Obama any better than his mentor Wright? Obama didn't disown Wright. He only wink wink pretended to, and the media let him get away with it instead of pressing him on the issue. That too was part of the radical strategy of lying and deceit. McCain has been afraid to touch that issue because he'll be accused of neo-McCarthyism. Of course, if McCain has far-right ties, it would be fair game for the media to attack him on that over and over. So, for those who ask, 'can it happen here?', the answer is IT IS HAPPENING HERE. Recall that Hitler started out as a hater and rabblerouser, a community organizer. Both Hitler and Obama were angry young men with strong prejudices and radical ideas. But, both found out that that is no path to power. So, Hitler toned down his rhetoric, made friends with the bourgeoisie, acted as though he didn't really mean what he wrote in Mein Kampf. He even fooled a lot of German Jews as most of them chose to remain in Germany when Hitler came to power. German Jews thought Hitler had either said those crazy things long ago or said them just for political expediency. They though they could work with Hilter, and Hitler would mellow out. Boy, were they wrong. And, remember how Allende came to power in Chile and then used democracy to undermine democracy and bring Chile to the brink of total communist takeover? The Chilean military took out Allende and saved the country whereas the German military allowed Hitler to take more and more power until Germans lost their freedoms. Anyway, the REAL Obama is all there in his life story. It is one of black nationalism, Marxism, ties to radical groups, anti-Americanism, international socialism, etc. Will Obama be an American Hitler? No, he won't gain as much as power as Hitler or Allende. But, he will not only be the most radical president but the most powerful president ever. He will not only have a Democratic Congress but the full and total support of the Media and Academia--dominated by liberal and leftwing Jews who are mainly responsible for his rise to power. Obama and the democrats will even use 'fairness doctrine' to clamp down on Talk Radio and will pass 'hate speech laws' that will ban far right speech but will allow far left speech(as is the case in Europe and Canada.) There is a book on the Nazi Seizure of Power. What we are seeing is a Leftwing Jewish and Black Marxist seizure of power. Obama will not be checked by the media. The media will only be his ministry of propaganda. The academia, which is supposed to be a place of independent thought challenging the powers-that-be, will function like the official intellectual class in communist nations. Hollywood is also for Obama and will function as the Ministry of Culture. Cultually, intellectually, politically, and even economically, the liberal and leftwing Jews will have and control everything through Obama. I say even economically because most of the top guys in the new technologies that are creating the billionaires of the future are Jews, and over 90% of Jews happen to be liberal or leftist. Why are they leftist even though they are rich? Because Jewish culture and tradition call for both profits and prophets. Jews want to control wealth but also want to use that wealth to control the Truth(media) and control power(politics). So, liberal and leftwing Jews want to amass huge fortunes in business and then support their guys to gain control over information and power. When we say liberal media, we really mean the Jewish media. When we say the academia, we know it's largely Jewish. Also, we know that Jewish and black power are especially powerful because it's politically incorrect to speak truth to Jewish or black power. It's 'anti-semtic' or 'racist'. The liberal Jews in the media and academia brainwashed us this way. And, conservatives fell for this B.S. by jumping on the bandwagon of screaming 'racist' over everything when they should have challenged the terminological concept from the very beginning. Also, it's about time conservatives woke up. They blame Obama for having anti-semitic friends, but notice that over 90% of Jews will vote for Obama. What do conservatives get from Jews for being so slavish toward Jews? Conservatives have supported Israel, have railed against 'anti-semites', have stood up to Islamic terrorism, etc, etc. Yet, over 90% of Jews support Obama, despise Bush, and look down on McCain and Palin. Most Jews are NOT the friends of conservatives no matter what conservatives do for Jews. Your average Jew laughed at Sandra Bernhardt's jokes about blacks raping Sarah Palin. NY, the center of American culture and intellectual thought--and as thorougly Jewish as any city can be--has been 100% for Obama. The coming victory of Obama should finally force conservatives to reassess their principles and practices. Conservatives have given Jews everything, Jews have given conservatives almost nothing. Even neocon Jews are dumping on Palin. Jewish conservatives should be welcome and valued within the movement, but the right must not write a blank check to Jewish power. This is why conservatism should shift away from the 'National Review' line to the 'American Conservative' line. National Review has been taken over by neocons and Dilbertarians. And, son of Bill Buckley, Christopher Buckley, hangs out with the NPR crowd, is a snotnosed yuppie, and says he might vote for Obama because he got a hard on for Obama's Dreams of Mein Kampf. If good writing impresses Chris boy so much, why not goad Gore Vidal for president? Vidal was certainly a better writer than Bill. Christopher Buckley for Obama. What does this mean? It adds up to fashionable yuppie Marxism. Marxism has become a radical chic philosophy, lifestyle, and means to power for urban sophisticates, the privileged, the snot-nosed, the sneering and smug jerks. But, the problem goes back to 2000 when conservatives chose Bush over McCain. McCain would have been a much better president--one of the great ones--from 2001 to 2008. He would have done more to control Republican Congress. He would have been a better war commander. But, instead conservatives went with lackluster W or wimp. Conservatives figured a Buttheadlike dumbass would serve as the perfect puppet of Old Money and Christian Right. Tax cuts for the rich alienated the great middle. Religious Right social policies offended many Americans. Also, conservatives didn't fight on the cultural front but only in the opinion front. Conservatives only had Talk Radio which only speaks to the chorus. Meanwhile, popular culture remained in the control of liberals who made the movies and TV shows that reached all of us, shaped how all of us think, changed how all of us feel. Leftists became professors who wrote the books that millions of students across America read. And, Leftists became most of the journalists who control most of the media. Conservatives have guns, but the pen and camera are mightier than the sword. Perhaps, the Fairness Doctrine will have a salutory effect. Perhaps, conservatives will leave their comfort zones and lairs of talk radio and enter into other forms of culture. Why can't conservatives create their own movie industries, create their own Oprah-like shows, and so on? Conservatives have been tough in the fight for Opinion Hegemony but have totally los tthe war for Cultural hegemony. Opinions, like the latest news, come and go. But, culture, like art, is 'forever'. Books, plays, novels, movies, Tv shows, music, and etc last through the generations. Indeed, isn't it pathetic that the music that Talk Radio guys play are almost all liberal? Hannity starts his show with a tune from Bruce Hornsby. Limbaugh starts his show with a tune from the Pretenders. Others will play riffs from U2, Cold Play, etc, etc. All Obama supporters. Such lack of respect and love for art and culture has weakened conservatism. Conservatism is supposed to about appreciation, reverence, and preservation of the best of the past, of the best of Western Civilization, best of human achievement. So, you'd think many conservatives are into classical music, literature, art, etc. But, look at all the museum curators. Liberal. Look at all the professors. Liberal. Look at all the classical instrumentalists. Liberal. Look at most authors. Liberal. (The only kinds of books written by conservatives are opinion books which merely reiterate stuff said a zillion times before on radio shows.) Conservatives bitch about how the liberals control the arts, media, and academia, but what have they done to challenge this state of affairs? Conservative idea of culture is videogames, guns, cars, and sports(which being dominated by blacks, is also a bastion of the the Democrats). Nothing wrong with guns and Nascar, but is this all? Is this what conservatism amounts to culturally? There's over 3000 yrs of Western Civilization, yet American conservatism is about country music, guns, and Nascar? The left may be critical and harsh on Western culture and civilization, but at least they read, listen, and look at that stuff. Most conservatives don't even know what they are supposed to conserve, preserve, and defend. We need a cultural movement within conservatism than merely one of opinions on economics and politics. If a people control culture, they will have tremendous power even if they don't hold political office. Even under 8 yrs of Bush, liberals and the left had tremendous power through culture, academia, and media. But, without political power, what is conservative power? Just opinions in talk radio? There should be a new rule. Okay, we already know that you are not a conservative if you are not for free markets and if you oppose gun rights. Yes and yes. But, we should also say you're not conservative if you don't care about, preserve, and appreciate the great cultural works of your ancestors who produced the greatest ideas in philosophy, religion, arts, culture, medicine, technology, science, etc. From appreciaton and reverence comes inspiration and vision to create new art and new culture that will say something about our society, about humanity, about what's good and bad, about what needs to be done, etc. But, what kind of culture do we get from the Right? Creationism! Where are today's John Fords, Howard Hawks, Sam Peckinpahs, Alfred Hitchcocks, Raoul Walshes, etc? Well, there is Clint Eastwood, but he was trashed by conservatives because of Million Dollar Baby. Eastwood told a controversial story with no simple answers so as to make us think about life, society, and moral issues, but conservatives reduced that fine movie into cops and robbers morality of 'euthanasia is bad'. Eastwood wasn't saying euthanasia is good but only that life is very complex, and individuals are compelled to take extraordinary things; the whole tone of the movie is pessimsitic about human nature. He wasn't being propagandistic one way or another, but the voices on the right turned it that way. Art and culture, unlike polemics, are suppose to invite controversy, raise troubling questions, tell painful human stories, etc, etc. Only a moron would denounce Trojan Women as 'commie leftwing anti-war propaganda'. In this sense, a genuinely great work of art can be liberal or conservative, but it is ART because it's not SIMPLY liberal or conservative. It has the courage to look at both sides, to understand that life is far more complex than any ideology can explain. There have been many great liberal artists and artworks that, though leaning liberal, have tried to see and understand the world beyond liberal ideology. But, where is such cultural sensibility on the right? Most rightwingers just want more Rambo movies! Eastwood's "Flags of Our Fathers" and "Letters from Iwo Jima" should serve as good models for a new kind of Right Culture. Eastwood's patriotism embraces humanity than merely waves the flag. And, though he knows that Japan was the bad guy in WWII, he understands there were honorable soldiers among the Japanese and their stories are also human stories. What bigness of heart and vision. But, these films were rejected by the Right and, oh boy, more appreciated by the Left. Not because those movies were leftwing but because, sad to say, more on the Left appreciate culture, art, and complexity than those on the Right. Left is ideologically very rigid but, culturally, they can be thoughtful and open. Anyway, we need to start a new Right Culture where all are required to read at least 10 classic works of literature a year, build up a classical music collection, read up on the basic of Western philosophy, read the Bible from cover to cover, and learn to appreciate at least 20 works of fine art per year. All conservative parents should introduce their kids to high culture from childhood. Without culture, man is what? Just an economic animal. And, too much of conservatism is only about taxes, guns, and nascar. Those are good but not enough to create a complete conservative, let alone a complete person. We need a conservative Oprah-ish figure who leads a cultural discussion. Such a person should say that for November, all conservatives should read 'Trojan Women' by Euripides or 'USA' by John Dos Passos. Or, it can even be a work by a liberal or a leftist as long as it inspires intelligent discussion. And, there can discussion of culture among conservatives through forums, blogs, and even talk radio. We need more Milt Rosenbergs. (To be sure, Michael Savage discusses culture and philosophy too.) Conseravatives should start to bitterly cling to books, art, classical music, culture. 3000 glorious yrs of Western civilization. (And also study other great cultures as well). There is no law banning conservatives from doing so. They just won't do it, and so liberals hog culture. But why let this happen? Once conservative children are brought up in this kind of environment, they will want to be the novelists, musicians, playwrights, actors, and moviemakers of the future. Then, there will be conservative culture. REAL conservative culture, not just guns and sixpacks.[ Auf dieses Posting antworten ]
