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Re: Your Fancy Argument Against Gun Ownership is in Error

Von: GeekBoy (nerd_revenge@nerdysix.net) [Profil]
Datum: 12.02.2008 23:26
Message-ID: <47b21d10$0$30716$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>
Newsgroup: soc.culture.usa alt.california alt.politics.uk alt.politics.democrats alt.politics.republicans
The genesis of "well regulated militia" is
found in the 1776 Virginia, Delaware, and Maryland
declarations of right, each of which utilize that term to
describe a limit on the power of their respective state
governments, not a grant of power to those
governments. Indeed, the Virginia description of a
"well-regulated militia [is] composed of the body of the
people, trained to arms..." (Sources, p. 312), fit the
preexisting "self-embodying defensive military
association" that had been voluntarily formed in
Fairfax County in 1775 "composed of free men [who]
elect[ed] their own officers, provid[ed] themselves with
firearms, and train[ed] themselves for defense." See D.
Young, The Founders' View of the Right to Bear Arms,
pp. 45-46 (Golden Oak Books: 2007).



<never@millions> wrote in message
news:g064r3h2kjm65t2f7dk1bu38t7gm2og6n7@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:53:16 -0600, "GeekBoy"
> <nerd_revenge@nerdysix.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message
>>news:1ic68t9.etwys91mqcncwN%nospam@noway.net...
>>> Mack the Knife <bulldog101750@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Myth: The Second Amendment guarantees the individual right to own a
>>>> gun.
>>>> Fact: The Supreme Court has always interpreted this as a state's
>>>> militia's right, not an individual's.
>>
>>
>>Got a cite for that? I know of no such decision.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 2nd Amendment: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the
>>> security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,
>>> shall not be infringed."
>>>
>>> During the American Revoution the vast majority of American troops were
>>> private armies, not state militia. Individual soldiers could decide to
>>> drop out of the unit at any time.
>>>
>>> The liberal press over here has tried to redefine every other word of
>>> the 2n Amendment. They even tried to use the African defination of the
>>> word "militia" to try to tell us what our fore fathers meant back
in the
>>> 1700s.
>>>
>>> "The People" refers to the civilian population of America.
>>>
>
> The 2nd Amendment is probably one of the most misunderstood amendments
> to the US Constitution. Courts have done little since
> an 1875 Supreme Court ruling that involved the rights of states to
> regulate bearing of arms and the relationship of a "well-regulated
> militia" to federal law. The court set a limit of the federal
> government. Ever since, there's been a constant litany of legislation
> attempting to control individual rights to bear arms.
>
> DCI


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