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Re: Panel Grounding vs. Lightning Rod Grounding

Von: Jim (alarminex@aol.com) [Profil]
Datum: 01.10.2008 01:09
Message-ID: <863c2f64-959f-4d04-a77a-41cedd233c42@u65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
Newsgroup: alt.security.alarms
On Sep 30, 11:10�am, "Doug" <n...@home.com> wrote:
> "w_tom" <w_t...@usa.net> wrote in message
>
> news:a50945f9-949a-4dfc-9e3c-5e860b5d0938@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 30, 1:23 am, David <inva...@socrates.edu> wrote:
> >> Tom, would you happen to have a link to the 1990 code -- where it
> >> addresses
> >> the present topic of lightning grounding?
>
> > �Code does not address lightning grounding except where
lightni
ng
> > might harm a human. �Code is about human safety. (For
example, 
a TV
> > ariel and lightning rods have a dedicated earth ground defined by
> > code.) �Code must be met and then exceeded for appliance
protec
tion.
>
> > �Code does require earthing of everything to a common
point. 
�Code
> > requires connections to earth ground to be less than 20 feet.
�
And
> > code required a dedicated earth ground - water pipe is no long
> > sufficient for earthing. �An electrician will meet code
require
ments.
> > But protection means code is also exceeded.
>
> > �For lightning protection, wire gauge is not important.
ï¿
½Wire length,
> > no splices, not inside conduit, separated from other wires, and no
> > sharp wire bends are more critical. �Code does not
address thes
e
> > 'also' issues. � IOW a ground wire from breaker box to
earth mu
st not
> > go over the foundation and down to earth. �That is too
long, to
o many
> > sharp bends, and not separated from other wires.
�Earthing must
be
> > routed through the foundation and down to earth for better surge
> > protection. �Reason why is wire impedance.
>
> > �A utility demonstrates how to kludge a solution when the
build
ing
> > was constructed wrong:
> > �http://www.cinergy.com/surge/ttip08.htm
> > This also upgrades earthing to 'exceed' what only met code.
>
> > �One underlying concept is impedance.
�Whereas a 50' ro
mex wire to
> > breaker box would be well under 0.1 ohms resistance to AC electricity
> > - that same wire may be 120 ohm impedance to a surge.
�Code is 
mostly
> > about wire resistance. �Electronic protection requires
low wire
> > impedance which is why grounding must exceed the 1990 code.
�Ma
ny
> > mistakenly assumed their panel was grounded by assuming wire
> > "resistance". They did not grasp a more important concept - wire
> > "impedance".
>
> > �Experience without underlying knowledge teaches nothing.
ï
¿½Experience
> > is only educational when concepts such as wire impedance are
> > understood. �So many 'knew' grounding did nothing by
forgetting
to
> > learn fundamental concepts such as wire impedance. �Their
'less
> > experience' �combined with no fundamental knowledge
taught them
> > nothing.
>
> You wouldn't happen to know anything about Belgian wireless alarm systems
> would you?
>
> Doug-

Oh crap ........ now ya did it!

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