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#Former UK ambassador: CIA sent people to be ?raped with broken bottles?

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Datum: 05.11.2009 03:35
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http://rawstory.com/2009/11/ambassador-cia-people-tortured/

Former UK ambassador: CIA sent people to be ‘raped with broken bottles’

By Daniel Tencer
Wednesday, November 4th, 2009 -- 3:31 pm


The CIA relied on intelligence based on torture in prisons in Uzbekistan,
a place where widespread torture practices include raping suspects with
broken bottles and boiling them alive, says a former British ambassador
to the central Asian country.

Craig Murray, the rector of the University of Dundee in Scotland and
until 2004 the UK's ambassador to Uzbekistan, said the CIA not only
relied on confessions gleaned through extreme torture, it sent terror war
suspects to Uzbekistan as part of its extraordinary rendition program.

"I'm talking of people being raped with broken bottles," he said at a
lecture late last month that was re-broadcast by the Real News Network.
"I'm talking of people having their children tortured in front of them
until they sign a confession. I'm talking of people being boiled alive.
And the intelligence from these torture sessions was being received by
the CIA, and was being passed on."

Human rights groups have long been raising the alarm about the legal
system in Uzbekistan. In 2007, Human Rights Watch declared that torture
is "endemic" to the country's justice system.

Murray said he only realized after his stint as ambassador that the CIA
was sending people to be tortured in Uzbekistan, country he describes as
a "totalitarian" state that has never moved on from its communist era,
when it was a part of the Soviet Union.

Suspects in Uzbekistan's gulags "were being told to confess to membership
in Al Qaeda. They were told to confess they'd been in training camps in
Afghanistan. They were told to confess they had met Osama bin Laden in
person. And the CIA intelligence constantly echoed these themes."

"I was absolutely stunned -- it changed my whole world view in an instant
-- to be told that London knew [the intelligence] coming from torture,
that it was not illegal because our legal advisers had decided that under
the United Nations convention against torture, it is not illegal to
obtain or use intelligence gained from torture as long as we didn't do
the torture ourselves," Murray said.

IT'S THE PIPELINE, STUPID

Murray asserts that the primary motivation for US and British military
involvement in central Asia has to do with large natural gas deposits in
Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. As evidence, he points to the plans to build
a natural gas pipeline through Afghanistan that would allow Western oil
companies to avoid Russia and Iran when transporting natural gas out of
the region.

Murray alleged that in the late 1990s the Uzbek ambassador to the US met
with then-Texas Governor George W. Bush to discuss a pipeline for the
region, and out of that meeting came agreements that would see Texas-
based Enron gain the rights to Uzbekistan's natural gas deposits, while
oil company Unocal worked on developing the Trans-Afghanistan pipeline.

"The consultant who was organizing this for Unocal was a certain Mr.
Karzai, who is now president of Afghanistan," Murray noted.

Murray said part of the motive in hyping up the threat of Islamic
terrorism in Uzbekistan through forced confessions was to ensure the
country remained on-side in the war on terror, so that the pipeline could
be built.

"There are designs of this pipeline, and if you look at the deployment of
US forces in Afghanistan, as against other NATO country forces in
Afghanistan, you'll see that undoubtedly the US forces are positioned to
guard the pipeline route. It's what it's about. It's about money, it's
about oil, it's not about democracy."

The Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline is slated to be completed in 2014, with
$7.6 billion in funding from the Asian Development Bank.

Murray was dismissed from his position as ambassador in 2004, following
his first public allegations that the British government relied on
torture in Uzbekistan for intelligence.


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Slavery: The belief that people can be property
Corporatism: The belief that property can be people.


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