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Re: The Rose Award For 4-1-2008. <7384>

>
> > > The Rose Award goes to Vladimir Guerrero of the Los Angeles Angels,
> > > who went three-for-four with three RBI and scored one run in a 9-1 win
> > > over the Minnesota Twins.
>
> > > Guerrero and Garret Anderson combined for six hits and Jon Garland
> > > breezed through his first start for the Angels.
>
> > He is great, but tell me, why would you reward someone for that kind
> > of performance with a prize named for a guy who is banned for life
> > from baseball? ?It seems kind of shameful. ?Or maybe the award is
> > named for some respectable person named Rose. ?I don't know.
>
> > brinaj
>
> Great achievements beget great performances. And 4,256 hits in the
> majors is a great achievement.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

>Is that a response to my post?  I'm not sure I am following you, but
>whatever.  Pete Rose did have some great achievements in baseball.  I
>have never known anyone to disagree with that.  But do you not see
>those achievements as tarnished just a smidge by his ongoing
>banishment from the game?  If not, that's OK, we just have a profound
>disagreement.
>
>brianj

I understand that you think he is undeserving of the Hall of Fame, but I
doubt Pete Rose cheated to get any of those 4,256 hits.  As a player he was
known for his hustle, above all else.  He symbolizes the game the way I
believe it should be played.  I don't think there's anything wrong with
having a player achievement award named after him.

He undeniably made some major mistakes during his managerial career; maybe
he made one too many head-first slides into home plate.

The things he has done as a person may justify him not being in the Hall of
Fame; however, the bottom line is the mark he made on the game (the one as a
player, not as a gambler) is undeniable and not erasable.  I think Pete
Rose, the player, deserves our respect even if Pete Rose, the person,
overwhelmingly does not.

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