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Re: Mad Internet Fools

Von: piablo (neil@nomailpiablo.clara.co.uk) [Profil]
Datum: 24.09.2007 20:13
Message-ID: <mn.c47f7d7914365ff2.66269@NOMAILpiablo.clara.co.uk>
Newsgroup: alt.sports.soccer.everton
Les D explained on 24/09/2007 :
> "piablo" <neil@NOMAILpiablo.clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:mn.c4567d7941878481.66269@NOMAILpiablo.clara.co.uk...
>> That's what we are.  It seems the only people who wonder if Moyes' time has
>> come are those on this and other Internet forums.
>>
>> There are no radio, tv or newspaper stories questioning Moyes' tenure at
>> the club.  In fact, the only story seems to be a News of the World one that
>> Moyes is about to be offered a new 5 year deal.
>>
>> I've heard those people who either support Moyes or just can't stomach any
>> voicing of discontent, saying that the only people talking about this are
>> on this kind of forum.  Moreover, they say this is because out in the
>> *real* world, everybody thinks Moyes is brilliant, and we're all fools not
>> to agree...
>>
>> Well, I've two problems with that.  First of all, there are plenty of
>> people I know who have no interest in the Internet who wonder if we really
>> ought to be looking for a replacement for Moyes.  Plus, knee-jerk or not, I
>> heard little else walking down Goodison Road on Thursday night.
>>
>> My second problem is why should the newspapers, radio or tv run this kind
>> of story?
>>
>> Spurs are expected to break into the top 3 or 4.  The media really
>> want/expect this to happen, and so it only takes a loss or two for whoever
>> is currently Spurs boss to start facing the media on the issue.
>>
>> Liverpool are the also-rans of the top four (despite European success), and
>> so their manager's position is always in question so far as the media is
>> concerned - not to mention the players vs. manager line they have run for
>> the last few managers.
>>
>> Arsenal and Man U's managers are known to have very secure positions, and
>> so it would take some really, really bad results for the media to question
>> this.
>>
>> But us?  Well, the feeling I get through the media is that Moyes occupies a
>> safe position with Kenwright.
>>
>> Secondly, we're not really expected to do anything.  We're not expected to
>> finish in any particular position (Europe or relegation are interchangeable
>> stories as far as the sports press are concerned), not expected to do well
>> in a cup, abysmal record in Europe.  In other words, Everton can continue
>> to be indifferent, boring, worthy of at most 30 seconds on MotD, winning or
>> losing, and the sports press really couldn't give a toss.
>>
>> You or I watching every week might want more for this club, but the media
>> don't care.
>>
>>
>
>  That's a fantastic post, Neil...and for me, absolutely spot-on.
>  AFAIC, people that do make comments in here are somewhat in a wilderness but
> are they MIF's (Mad Internet Fools) ? On the whole, I would say, no...if you
> can logically back up a thought, you aren't mad.
>

I knew you'd get on to the MIF'd acronym.  (;0)

>  On Sunday I listened to the Radio Merseyside phone-in and eventually a
> fella' (from Childwall) was introduced into the Everton situation. He banged
> a very big drum, saying David Moyes is inept and should no longer manage
> Everton.
>  In a nut-shell, Alan Jackson (studio chair-person) laughed him out of court.
>  For me it was a stark reality how easily any person can be looked upon as
> being 'mad as a hatter'.

I rarely listen to the radio commentary these days, but I was doing diy
on Sunday, so listened on RM up until the phone-in began.  I got the
impression throughout the game that Goodlass is less than impressed
with Everton at the moment, both at a number of individuals, but also
Moyes tactics and team selection.



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