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Re: Yes, Another Sarah Palin Topic

Von: Roky (rokybird@yahoo.com) [Profil]
Datum: 06.10.2008 23:22
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On Oct 3, 8:55 pm, "verb" <no...@home.com> wrote:
> "alex" <alexanderkalinow...@web.de> wrote in message
>
> news:672c9069-f302-4ba7-b5c4-dc327f13f9d4@l76g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 2 Okt., 14:28, easy_rider_1...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> >> On Oct 2, 1:22 pm, paulhewson <paulhewson54...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >  No. I almost hope she had, because it would have been comical.
>
> >> Oh. Damn, I was hoping she had said it too. I have been watching a few
> >> interview videos. She is terrible!
>
> > Alex:
> > I like her.
>
> lol, she's a fucking fascist monster/kook.
>
>
>
>
>
> >> She doesn't seem to know much about
> >> anything in general.
>
> > Alex:
> > I don't think that is a big minus in much of rural America. The
> > problem is that she doesn't know much and tries to fudge her way
> > through. Which might work better if she apparently didn't get
> > overbriefed by the McCain camp.
>
> > It would have been by far smarter to say: yes, I am inexperienced in
> > foreign affairs - but I'll learn on the job. Within a year I will be
> > up and running at full speed.
>
> >> Her answer to why she has foreign policy
> >> experience was that Alaska borders Russia and Canada :-/
>
> > Alex:
> > I thought experience wasn't all that important and that is was
> > judgement that mattered? That's what Obama said,
> > referring to the experience that Cheney and Rumsfeld brought into
> > office.
>
> >> Her only
> >> disagreement with the US Supreme Court was Roe vs Wade (abortion?) and
> >> she couldn't name a newspaper she reads. She is very good at avoiding
> >> answering questions though. She makes Gordon Brown look good, and that
> >> is hard to do.
>
> > Alex:
> > I have no problem with either politician. :-)
>
> All of them are mass murdering fascist monsters.
>
> You've been watching too much tv(propaganda), alex.

She speaks in tongues.
Sam Smith

Contrary to her Joe Six Pack, hockey mom hokum, Sarah Palin proved in
her debate with Joe Biden that she would fit in extremely well in
Washington - albeit at an enormous price to the rest of the country.

The secret to this adaptation would be her extraordinary, joyful and
utterly remorseless prevarication and perseveration, two hallmarks of
contemporary capital pathology.

Her lying was astounding - not merely in the number of misstatements
of facts she peddled - but the context in which she dissembled. For
example, much of what she argued was based on the premise that she
represented the middle class while Biden was a member of the elite.
The senator was too polite to point out that, at best estimates, her
net worth is at least six times that of Biden.

The really good liar doesn't settle for mere manufactured numbers and
events, but creates a whole imaginary ecology in which the lies can
blossom. Richard Nixon, for example, was a liar, but he never acquired
the sort of manic affection for the act that one finds in Palin.

It is as if she regards life as one big Home Shopping Network on which
she is the attractive, buoyant host peddling John McCain or whatever
else she has in stock that day.

Even more impressive, however, is her perseveration. I first came
across this phenomenon while describing someone to a psychiatrist
friend. "It sounds like he's a higher functioning autistic. . . has
Asperger's Syndrome."

"What's that?" I asked. And in his descriiption he included the
prevalence of repetitive or non-responsive answers in human exchanges.

"My god," I replied, "That's the Sunday morning talk shows."

Suddenly decade of reporting Washington made sense. I had started out
when politicians tended to be not all that well educated and over half
the reporters in the country only had a high school education, but
most were highly socially intelligent. Now the place is overflowing
with highly educated individuals who can't relate their data to what
was actually going on in the world and when you press them on it, give
Aspergerian repetitive or non responsive answers. Or pass $700 billion
bailout bills without any real notion of what they are up to.

Yet in the debate, Sarah Palin put all the Washington perseverators to
shame thanks to two special qualities. She applied the fundamentalist
principal of rapture over reality to everything she said and she
turned what is more typically a defect promoting inaction and
passivity into a vigorous act of aggression, even joyously telling the
moderator at one point that she wasn't going to forced into giving
actual answers to the questions being asked. What we got was our first
vice presidential candidate ever to speak in tongues.

Consider a few definitions of perseveration:

- Perseveration is the uncontrollable repetition of a particular
response, such as a word, phrase, or gesture, despite the absence or
cessation of a stimulus. . . Meaningless or pointless repetition of
words, phrases, ideas, or actions.

- If an issue has been fully explored and discussed to a point of
resolution it is not uncommon for something to trigger the re-
investigation of the matter. This can happen at any time during a
conversation.

Those with Asperger's syndrome also display a form of perseveration in
that they focus on one or a number of narrow interests.

- The inability of ceasing a particular action can range in type. In
any of the cases, the individual enters or continues a train of
thought that is narrowly focused; in a sense, having tunnel vision.
This focus could be on anything from a simple idea to a complex
problem. Even if the original problem solving strategy is not the
working, the person may not be able to change planes of thinking,
suggesting a disability in abstract reasoning.

- A person with perseveration may actually enjoy the repetitive
activities he or she is engaging in. The term obsession or compulsion
is used when such activities become both undesirable actions and
unstoppable.

Now a few examples directly from Dana Milbank's recap of the debate:

- This week, Sarah Palin gave a curious rationale for her candidacy.
"It's time," the Republican vice presidential nominee said, "that
normal Joe Six-Pack American is finally represented in the position of
vice presidency.". . .

- "Let's commit ourselves just everyday American people, Joe Six-Pack,
hockey moms across the nation," she proposed when asked about the
mortgage crisis.

- "I want to go back to the energy plan," she said when asked about
the federal bailout plan.

- "I want to talk about, again, my record on energy," she said when
asked about bankruptcy.

- Biden grew frustrated. "If you notice, Gwen, the governor did not
answer the question." Replied Sarah Six-Pack: "I may not answer the
questions that either the moderator or you want to hear, but I'm going
to talk straight to the American people."

- At other times, her answers defied comprehension, as when Ifill
asked about her trigger for using nuclear weapons. "Nuclear weaponry,
of course, would be the be-all, end-all of just too many people in too
many parts of our planet, so those dangerous regimes, again, cannot be
allowed to acquire nuclear weapons, period," she answered.

- "Oh yeah, it's so obvious I'm a Washington outsider," she said with
a shy grin when Ifill asked about putting troops in Darfur. "And
someone just not used to the way you guys operate."

- Asked about the possibility that she would assume the presidency if
the president died in office, she found herself saying, "I think we
need a little bit of reality from Wasilla Main Street there, brought
to Washington, D.C."

- When backed into uncomfortable terrain, such as defending the Bush
administration's economic record, she exploded into cliche and non
sequitur: "Say it ain't so, Joe. There you go again pointing backwards
again. . . . Now doggone it, let's look ahead." Before finishing her
answer, she mentioned her "brother, who I think is the best
schoolteacher in the year, and here's a shout-out to all those third-
graders at Gladys Wood Elementary School, you get extra credit for
watching the debate." . . . "Everybody gets extra credit tonight," the
moderator assured Sarah Six-Pack. "We're going to move on to the next
question."

There are treatments prescribed for this sort of problem, but
significantly absent from all the prescriiptions is election to high
office.

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