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Re: really stupid question

On Oct 22, 12:49 am, astri <inva...@example.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007, emerging butterfly wrote:
> > On Oct 21, 11:30 pm, astri <inva...@example.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007, emerging butterfly wrote:
> >>> On Oct 21, 10:59 pm, astri <inva...@example.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007, Emerging Butterfly wrote:
> >>>>> On Oct 21, 9:48 pm, astri <inva...@example.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007, Emerging Butterfly wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Oct 21, 8:21 pm, astri <inva...@example.com>
wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007, emerging butterfly wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> but understand feels that way.
> >>>>>>> wish could help that feeling.
> >>>>>>> (in you and in me)
>
> >>>>>> oh well
> >>>>>> happens
>
> >>>>> i notice you do this a lot. -- when people get very empathic n
> >>>>> see that you're feeling really bad, you sorta seem to shrug it
> >>>>> off. ya know? like not want to realize pain is bad, pain seen,
is
> >>>>> okay for people to care?
>
> >>>> maybe just being resigned to it being like that?
>
> >>> makes sense -- still feel sad for you(s) that the resignation is
> >>> there.
>
> >> oh
> >> what else is there to do?
>
> > good point. cry maybe? if we could cry more, n internalize care,
> > would help us a lot. (me and my insiders, i mean)
>
> crying can be hard
> do sometimes
> but

same here
not telling you have to cry
we can't cry most of time either
just...care

>
> > but, yeah, what else? pound walls? rail at the heavens? i see where
> > you're coming from.
>
> at a certain point, think we just need to acknowledge current reality

yes. makes sense. so you think it's maybe healthy sometimes to shrug?
guess it was, to us, like shrugging off offered comfort or something.
don't know how to explain.
the stuff you say "happens"....well, not for most. not to the extent
we suffer it. *shouldn't* happen.
gotta acknowledge current reality, but current reality....i don't
know. not fair for you. shouldn't have to be like this.
rain happens.
bad hair days happen!
but this stuff.....
I don't know, it's not in the course of normal happenings. that's
where the sense of minimizing comes in.
this is extraordinary pain you're dealing with!


>
>
>
>
>
> >>>> (is also a bit scary to be seen, yes)
>
> >>> understand this.
>
> >>>>> just pointing out cuz think we do same, n hard to see you
> >>>>> minimize stuff so much sometimes. (meant this like kind person
> >>>>> wanting you to feel okay taking kindness,
>
> >>>> k
>
> >>>>> n seeing is hard for you. not criticism. just
noticing....don't
> >>>>> let care for pain get too deep.)
>
> >>>> maybe is taking care of others, too
> >>>> not want others to hurt cuz of us
> >>>> think deep care can get painful
> >>>> and we disappoint if not change right away
>
> >>> yes.
> >>> makes sense.
> >>> nice of you to care and not want others to feel bad n such.
> >>> we won't expect or be disappointed if things don't change right
> >>> away, even though sad you hurt.
>
> >> ok
>
> >>> Sometimes think just crying or acknowledging is good outlet, good
> >>> start.
>
> >> yes
> >> can be
>
> >>> when some cry, you shrug.
>
> >> ?
>
> > meant, when some in your situation might cry, you shrug.
> > didn't mean in condescending way at all. just...wanted to...help?
>
> oh
> we thought maybe you saying we shrug when other people crying
> didn't think we did that

nope. not what saying at all. maybe mean to, when others want to cry
for you, you shrug....know?

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