desultory array
Von: trill (trill@cyalater.peace) [Profil]
Datum: 20.10.2007 13:38
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Newsgroup: alt.support.dissociation
Datum: 20.10.2007 13:38
Message-ID: <HvKdnWFQJLsydYTanZ2dnUVZ_tuonZ2d@comcast.com>
Newsgroup: alt.support.dissociation
i feel that i must enter with a strong, defensive statement. i seek support that is a construction in my mind based on past experience in this cyber-location; based on what i assume the intent of those who gatther here to be. it took a long, persuasive campaign by two people to convince me to read anything here, let alone to write anything. actually, i spent a lot of money, at a time when money was scarce in my life, in order to purchase the equipment that allows me to get here. & being able to read & write @ asd was the single reason that i upgraded my computer, back then. i just remembered that! i've been sick, recently. some kinda bug got me & spiked a fever in me. that, in turn, exacerbated the ms, as fevers do. pain, insomnia, fatigue, & (ironically, considering the insomina) have defined my existance. i watched several documentaries about rwanda recently; about women & injuries that they suffer as a result of the particular way in which they were assaulted. my imagination is both too limited & too empathetic regarding the circumstances of those women. i want to say that i can't imagine the particular feelings & their depth & breadth as well as the redefinition of self that the traumas inflicted upon those women must create. however: to have said what i just wrote in the previous sentence, i necessarily am able to connect in an organic manner to those women... women i'll never meet, whose manner of living, both materially & socially, are so astoundingly different than my own that i am surprised when i realize that we live on the same planet. i realize, anew,that we are of the same world, everytime that i encounter images & language of &/or about those women. i am only able to think or imagine that i have a possible inkling of knowledge of their experience by virtue of the worst experiences in my own life: i have endured & survived multiple physical ass**lts that have included types of *bse that many ppl commonly refer to as sx*al *bse & something that is most extreme in that genre of physical attack... it starts w/the letter "r" (i don't think that "r" & other physical attacks that ppl refer to as sx*al in nature are actually sx*l. i want sx to be a positive, healthy, pleasurable experience that, at worst, is fun, &, at most, is transcendant, powerfully moving, mutually metaphorically expressive of deep, positive emotions that defy verbal articulation. i don't want to allow vi*lnt & traumatic offenses to be combined in any mode of thinking & perception of the world, of reality, w/sxuality. yet, it seems that it is. it seems to me that vi*lnce & sx are more frequently combined in various cultural expressions than are love & sx. i wonder if all of culture is subordinated by war, always, no matter what else, in the ways that victors inscribe history.) also, i have survived the d**ths of many loved ones. tho right now i am on the cusp of the age in which d**th becomes increasingly common for one, such as myself, who lives, fortuitously, by virtue of the extreme & obscene wealth of the self-proclaimed "advanced sector," all of the loss i've already experienced took place when i was young & when most of those who di*d were young. su*cdes, drug overdoses, aids, cancers, & political assassntions. assassassassassassassassassassassass and for reasons that are entirely beyond my abilities to be responsible, i've been pariahed by my family, then later, on a few occasions, by a few different social groups. i appreciate knowing about those women, but i question my appreciation of that knowledge. my questioning relates to my critical attitudes about the idea of people making documentaries about the women. the women are dark skinned. the documentarians are young, light skinned men from the "advanced sector" who take their complex & sophisticated cameras into the impoverished, ramshackle clinics where the women are housed while mostly male doctors perform surgeries on them in attempts to "patch" the hideous, permanent wounds that remain after the women were attacked. non-profit funded organizations surround those women w/social workers who come from more materially endowed cultures than the culture that birthed & raised the injured women. often the social workers tell the women's stories. it seems to me that too much of the women's stories is elided. since wwii & the shoah (a hebrew word that means the destruction of a culture), or the "holocaust," as most call it, there has not been a genocide of the size of that which continues in rwanda; now over one million gone. & it is almost as systematic as the shoah, which has, in my mind, stood out in genocides as having been the most systematic. i prefer "shoah" to "holocaust" as the term for that particular genocide because "holocaust" signifies something larger, more planetary or global; something that encompasses all of humanity -- something that might come in the future. i learned about someone i met @ asd, "beauty," having di*d. i learned that her passing was posted at asd & that many ppl wrote about it. i learned about it off line, tho, & limits on my energy prevent me (for now) from searching for the pertinent threads. but i want to add words to her memorial & commemorations. she & i had a private rapport via which we shared a variety of interests & cultural practices. we valued many, maybe most of the same social ideas, attitudes, & practices. we collaborated on a couple of projects. i respected her. i kept forgetting to ask about her conspicuous absence @ asd after i had been away from it for a long time, myself, & also after a time passed during which it became 1st difficult for me to reach beauty, then impossible. & also, well before i couldn't reach her, i had stopped hearing from her. & i was concerned. last night i saw a blurb about terri g*rr on an entertainment show in t.v. she has ms. on the program she appeared in a wheel chair. she is 61 yrs. she looked old to me. i'm not much younger than 61. she said that ppl treat her very differently since she became ill. i completely relate to that! meanwhile, it is scary for me to observe her deterioration, especially when i've been especially ill. today my ms support group meets. i've been forging some good connections insida that group, recently, by taking responsibility to creat & manage a distribution list for notices to the group via email, & by designing & managing an internet support group for us. in the recent past i wrote stuff here about how ppl treat me differently since i've been dxed w/ms, & increasingly as i appear sicker & more disabled. it was difficult & scary for me to explain the depths & worst aspects & fears of my isolation. in my entire life, i've never deliberately plut myself in such a vulnerable position as i did when i divulged that stuff. the most supportive & helpful things that were said to me then came from baba yaga & astri. unfortunately, when those 2 ppl branched into a dialog that was private to them & written in some sort of code that i didn't understand, i flipped out a little. i emphasize "a little." in asd lingo, i was triggered. starting from the point of my extreme isolation & desperate loneliness, when i couldn't figure out what was being said, i feared the enforced isolation by virtue of closed cultural doors that i experience in most of my life; that i'd written about at length in the thread. consequently, in 4 brief posts i implored the two whose supportive words had only moments before been the most assuaging & empathic thing that anyone had said to me, ever, about my feelings in struggle with the entirely-new-to-me sense of social isolation. really, in all of the rest of my life i've been extremely well-networked w/lots of friends & political & collegial connections. now all of that is broken... but, i'm not gonna talk about that again. anyway, i bordered the posts in which i impored those 2 to explain what they meant by their code w/"expletive, expletive, expletive..." i'm not substituting "expletive" for any other words, now. that is the word i wrote, then. & i triggered the 2 whose words i had most appreciated. but the worst thing is that a dog pile style flaming ensued. i started this post by saying that i feel i must write something defensive as a start to engaging in anything here @ asd. it's not because of the dogpile that ensued back then, maybe a month ago... i can't remember exactly. but it's because there are a couple of ppl @ asd w/whom i was in conflict in the past. & i mean way past. years past. relatively spking, re: asd, yrs. in the past is ancient history. i don't even care about those conflicts anymore. conflicts in which the other ppl were equally responsible for the problems as was i; conflicts that were never resolved, sadly, tho i made efforts to get them resolved. but, the others made it emphatically clear that they had (have) no interest in resolution. oh well. i'm not trying to claim that i hurt more than anyone else, or that i did anything better than anyone else. what i'm trying to do is get to be able to say: altho some other asders have requested that i not mention those conflicts; that i simply participate @ asd & let ppl see who i am irrespective of other relationships in my life, it remains the case that those w/whom those conflicts developed know many asders in other venues than @ asd. since each of them divulged lotsa info & opinions to me about lotsa different asders back in the day when we were buds, i fear & believe that each of them has dispensed less than positive opinions & descriptions of me in asd back channels. i've seen/read plenty of nay-saying about me from them in plain view @ asd, & then, when i've attempted to defend myself...well those are the times that i've been asked to refrain. & i will, but... i don't believe that anybody will ever be able to give me a fair hearing about anything @ asd any longer. over & over again those who were in conflict w/me have said &/or insinuated that i'm horrible & dangerous & aggressive & completely unsafe & beyond self-improvement, unable to hear any "constructive criticism," hence unable to learn anything about improving myself. darts, daggers, bullets, & bombs have been launched at me. i expect that certain folk will wanna strike at me again if those ppl read this, & i beg them to leave it alone already. i have become enlightened about certain things that i did &/or said that, when i did/said them i thought of them as justified & correct, but once enlightened about them i realized ways that they could have hurt that i did not understand @ the time of the deeds &/or words. i apologized. & besides apologizing, i've made other efforts to hold out the proverbial olive branch. they don't wanna take it. that's their business. & that is fine & can even be called "right," but what's definitely wrong is for either of them & anybody who fancies hirself to be an ally to either of them in a poloarized conflict that has long been over & passed, for me... -- what's wrong is for anybody who reads anything that looks like conflict or confusion or misunderstanding or difficulty that involves me or can be assigned as my solitary "fault" (tho, i would argue that there is no conflict in which i've been involved that is my solitary fault)... what's wrong is for anybody to chime in with stuff like, "you see! trill is dangerous. trill is bad. beware of trill. trill will hurt you. blah blah blah de blah blah.!!!" that sort of dynamic has gone on & on & on & on ridiculously. in fact, i, trill, am good at being a friend. i don't go in for the superficial. i don't often srite short posts with standard types of encouraging remarks. i usually don't respond to a post unless it resonates w/me in a way that allows me to be able to dialog w/it in depth; perhaps to carry on via a thread a conversation in which 2 or more of us explore something. &, should i ever be in conflict w/anyone for any reason, unless that conflict involves life-threatening attacks, i don't terminate friendships. i don't consider conflict to indicate that a friendship has gone bad. rather, i think that it signifies a difficult growing point in the relationship, & i see it thru, to the extent that an other is willing to engage in the necessary process. sometimes i table a conflict, in mutual consent w/another, to be able to move forward in the friendhship to a point where we can revisit the conflict, at last toward a resolution. but, i've encountered a few ppl who prefer not to work thru the/a conflict; who prefer to terminate the friendship. & that is the case w/2 ppl @ asd. & that situation has affected other ppl's thinking & feeling about me, more than i expect anyone will ever say, especially @ asd. i write none of that stuff to ask for any comment from anyone. in fact, i hope that no one will comment. i'm not attempting to give anybody any other opportunity to try to teach me any lesson that sie thinks i need to learn, nor to try to warn others about me being as terrible as the certain someones appear to believ i am. rather, i'm trying to pave a path that i can use as an entry point for me to walk in & out of asd safely so that i can offer whatever support, friendship, insights, underestanding, empathy, sympathy, etc. that i have to give to other indivual who, like i, seek refuge from the larger world that doesn't understand the twisted & tesseracted & layered & folded, complicated mental methodology of dissociation. still, like when i 1st came to asd, i prefer to think of our ways of thinking & identifying as "metasociative" rather than as "dissociative." certainly i realize that i dissociate, just as i can recognize dissociation in other asd members. however, i strive, as it seems to me that most ppl who hang at or visit asd also do, to overcome the negative difficulties of dissociating by metasociating, meaning that by being able to associate across the various disociated boundaries of our thinking & identities, w/out losing the distinctions of the identities &/or various ways of thinking that eahc of us practices, we are each able to enhance our comprehension & apprehension of the world in which we live metasociatively or hyper-associatively; self-consioucly self-consciously; knowing ourselves as all of ourselves in a hyper-conscious state that listens & hears the variety of perceptions of each distinguished aspect or alternative of ourselves at once & to creat associations among those thoughts & feelings of those parts. i hope that made sense. someone whom i had believed was lost to me as a friend because of the ms, because of hir reaction to seeing me disabled by the ms, called me up & apologized to me for having pulled away. that surprised me a lot. we had a few long, processing talks. we've been hanging out together, again. an old friend w/whom i had recently reconnected only for me to receive a surprise & undefined rejection finally divulged the reason for the rejection. i was shocked by it. sie had looked me up on the internet & was only able to find a few references to my work. from that sie concluded that i didn't do most of what i said i did. when i suggested other ways of verifying my publications & degrees, sie only said that sie knew that i could phony it up & that sie wasn't willing to talk w/me anymore. that was sad for me. one of my neighbors approached me at the trash can pen & told me sie had looked me up on the internet & found a buncha stuff about me. sie focused on me being a lesbian, never mind teaching & writing & organizing. very weird, this info tech age. a friend of mine offered about a year ago to pay for me to get dental work. i've been hunting for a dentist. after a couple of them struck me as being incompetent & rude, i met one whom i trusted. i submitted to some work on my mouth & sie did things to my teeth that hurt them & made my mouth more messed up than when sie started. trusting a dentist is almost impossible for me. meanwhile, i'm afraid that my teeth are gonna fall out! i'm falling asleep. trill[ Auf dieses Posting antworten ]
