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Re: Note for Michael Ridenhour

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:44:41 -0500, asper <asper@cyberpass.net> wrote:

>NOTE:  For those who do not like to scroll, Ctrl+End will take you to
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>On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:37:34 -0400, jay1000 <jfschonSpamguarD@cox.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>>On the question of language: I think it was clear that I was talking
>>>about normal speaking/reading language. The simple fact is that this
>>>is the dominant form of communication in the society and the economy
>>>and anyone who cannot communicate in this way is in serious trouble.
>>>That is why I was so saddened to learn that most children born deaf
>>>may also be condemned to illiteracy. It has long been possible to
>>>teach Deaf children to speak and read but it expensive and society,
>>>generally, may not have been willing to provide the necessary
>>>institutions/resources.
>>>
>>>I might insert here the comment that I have failed totally to locate
>>>any figure for the proportion of children born, or pre-lingually Deaf
>>>who learn to read (I trust it is clear I am talking about reading
>>>printed/written language).
>>>
>>From http://gri.gallaudet.edu/Literacy/
>>
>>"For the 17-year-olds and the 18-year-olds in the deaf and hard of
>>hearing student norming sample, the median Reading Comprehension
>>subtest score corresponds to about a 4.0 grade level for hearing
>>students. That means that half of the deaf and hard of hearing
>>students at that age scored above the typical hearing student at the
>>beginning of fourth grade, and half scored below. The "median" is the
>>50th percentile, and is one of the ways to express an average, or
>>typical, score. (A "mean" score, or arithmetic average, is not the
>>same as the median.)"
>>
>>Pathetic!
>
>Well, that glass might be half empty or half full.  Quoted *average*
>adult reading level in the US is 8th grade equivalent, 7th grade in
>California, 5th grade for MedicAid recipients.
>(http://www.hospitalcouncil.net/Upload/BEACON_Brown_BAPSC_Colloq_4-24-07.pdf)
>
>In the 60's and 70's, when almost all Deaf education was oral only,
>the quoted average reading levels for Deaf adults was 3rd grade, for
>Hearing adults, 8th grade.  The gap between reading levels of Hearing
>and Deaf seems to have narrowed.
>
>In any case, it is my belief that the poor reading performance
>reflects a lack of early language exposure and a lack of adult
>language models.  If you visit public schools, it quickly becomes
>apparent that many children have had *no* adult interaction in the
>home.  The only language models many children seem to have had are
>cartoons.  (Cartoons provide even less language modeling for Deaf
>children!)
>
>That is one reason I advocate early use of visual language for
>interaction between parents and their deaf kids, even if the child has
>a CI.  The more early language exposure a child has, the better he
>seems to do with many life tasks.  Complex, properly modeled adult
>level language is even better.
>
>asper

Are there any studies to confirm that signing with a CI has any
benefit?  There are some auditory-verbal studies that show the
opposite.  My personal experience demonstrates that auditory verbal
works for two kids.  My grandchildren are both prelingual, bilateral,
profoundly deaf.  The first was not fitted with aids for 2 years; the
second in 2 week.  Both got intensive A-V training and are now in the
local high school, with FM as the only service.  Both read on grade
level and one is on the honor roll.

I appears to me, based on my limited experiences, that intensive
language training is probably much more important than the selected
mode. That is, auditory verbal, auditory oral, cued speech, ASL, etc
will all work if there is sufficient intensive training.

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