Re: BLOOD MONEY Re: LOL: Colombia Reneges On Promise to Share $2B Shipwreck With American Discoverers

zeez <UltimaUW@excite.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> ultim...@hotmail.com wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> balanc...@yahoo.com wrote
>>>>> GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer wrote

>>>>>> Colombia court decides against U.S. treasure hunters
>>>>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070707/ts_alt_afp/colombiausshipwreck_0...
>>>>> If anything it needs to go to the indian tribes who
>>>>> were decimated and slaughtered by the millions

>>>> Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant drug crazed fantasys.

>>> Oh yeah?

>> Yep.

>>> http://www.indio.net/aymaco/slaughter.htm
>>> http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id96409671
>>> of millions of documents about the massacres.

>> Pity that not one of those claims MILLIONS, child.

> Lets see....

> http://home.earthlink.net/~jkdowell/id3.html

Easy to claim, child. Some evidence to substantiate that claim might be handy.

> Colonization Day

> By Steven Newcomb

> The day on which the United States pays tribute to Cristobal Colon
> (the colonizer) is just around the corner, and I am once again
> pondering his legacy. Every time I think of Columbus's (Colon's) life
> and the dire and lasting effects of colonization on Indigenous nations
> and peoples, I also think of certain Vatican documents that created a
> context for his first voyage and subsequent voyages. One key document
> that I have written about in the past is the Inter Caetera bull of May 1493.
> This document called for the "subjugation" of "barbarous
nations" in order
> to force them to the Catholic faith and Christian religion.

> One important line in the Inter Cetera bull is, "We trust in Him from
> whom empires, and governments, and all good things proceed." The
> capital "H" on "Him" indicates that this pronoun is referring
to the
> Catholic deity. The Latin language version of the document reveals
> that the English word "governments" is a translation of the Latin word
> "dominationes," or dominations. Thus, the document is saying that
> "empires," "dominations," and "all good things"
proceed "from" or
> emerge out of the Catholic deity.

> It is logically impossible for the Vatican and the pope to have said
> that empires and dominations ("dominationes") "proceed from" or
emerge
> from their Catholic deity without also acknowledging the Catholic
> deity is a deity of empire and domination, and without acknowledging
> that the Vatican is an institution dedicated to the spread and expanse
> of empire and domination. Let us not forget that empires and
> dominations are rooted in violence, and physical, psychological, and
> spiritual abuse.

> Empire has been defined as "a dominion, state, or sovereignty that
> would expand in population and territory, and increase in strength and
> power." The Pope as "the Supreme Head of the Roman Catholic Church,"
> is also the "Supreme Head of the Roman Catholic Empire." The Vatican
> just doesn't advertise this information. Empire might be good for
> business, but it's not a good sales tool.
>
> There is other evidence to support what I'm saying. In the papal bull
> dum diversas of 1452, for example, Pope Nicholas V. instructed King
> Alfonso of Portugal to "invade, capture, vanquish, and subdue, all
> Saracens, pagans, and other enemies of Christ, to put them into
> perpetual slavery, and to take away all their possessions and
> property." Here's clear evidence of the Vatican's responsibility for
> crimes against humanity, with regard to the African slave trade, and
> the bloody and genocidal conquest moves against the Indigenous nations
> and peoples of the area that would eventually be known as the
> Americas. Millions were killed outright, and millions more died of
> diseases.
>
> The Vatican documents mentioned above, set Christian Europeans on a
> path of colonization and domination, death and destruction, all in the
> name of "religious conversion." These church documents helped set the
> engine of devastation into motion, and gave it fuel. Now we want the
> Vatican to acknowledge the role that it played in the annihilation of
> many Indigenous peoples, and the destruction of tremendous amounts of
> Indigenous knowledge and wisdom, thereby depriving the world of that
> vitally important information.
>
> Do, dom, domo, dominare, dominatio, dominion, domination, dome,
> domesticate, are among the concepts that structure the category
> empire. The word "domo" is a Latin word that has seven basic meanings:
> to subjugate, to subdue, to force into subservience, to tame, to
> domesticate, to cultivate, and to till. The word in Latin for
> cultivate is colere, which means both "to colonize" and "to
design."
> When all these activities are carried out, the result is a system of
> empire. From the point of view of the goal of empire building, and
> empire maintenance, all these various activities are regarded as
> positive and highly effective. They are also in keeping with the first
> command of Genesis 1:28 in the Bible: "subdue the Earth, and exercise
> dominion [domination] over all living things."
>
> Celebrating the life of Columbus (Colon) is to unconsciously celebrate
> of a global system of domination that emerged during the so-called Age
> of Discovery. It is to obfuscate the true story, and place into a
> positive light the terror of the genocidal forces unleashed by the
> Vatican documents mentioned above, and by other such documents.
>
> To acknowledge what is presented here as truth, however, is difficult
> if not impossible for the dominating society. This is so because this
> kind of information reveals the actual character of the dominant
> society, instead of allowing that character to be hidden behind a mask
> of positive and benign sounding words.
>
> We as contemporary Indigenous peoples are the present day voice
> descended from our ancestors. The spirits of our ancestors are with
> us. It is time for the age of subjugation to come to a close. It is
> time for a much need transition into an age of healing,
> revitalization, resurgence, and renewal. Healing can only come about
> by means of a healing mind (a medicine mind) and healing activities.
> The same is true of revitalization, resurgence, and renewal. This is
> natural law.
>
> Speaking of natural laws, I have learned much about the Seven Laws of
> the Oceti Sakowin from my friend and colleague Birgil Kills Straight.
> These are laws of the Oglala Lakota, and other allied nations of the
> Nakota and Dakota. According to Birgil, Indigenous laws are concepts,
> values, and principles that open a path of truth, beauty, and
> goodness. These are laws to be lived each and every day of our
> lives.
>
> These laws teach us to honor and respect all forms of life, and to
> have compassion and pity for others. They instruct us to share with
> and care for others. The Seven Laws direct us to exhibit patience and
> fortitude, as well as humbleness and humility. The laws tell us we
> must be courageous and brave, and to demonstrate patience and
> fortitude in our lives, while also seeking wisdom and understanding in
> our lives. When these laws are lived as a way of life, they result in
> Wolakota, or a life of peace and friendship.
>
> When person lives in keeping with these concepts and the activities
> that go with them, that person will find peace. The same is true for a
> family or extended family, for a community or for a nation. Speaking
> of peace, the great Oglala spiritual leader Black Elk once said (as
> found in Joseph Epes Brown's book, "The Sacred Pipe."): "The first
> peace, which is the most important, is that which comes within the
> souls of men when they realize their relationship, their oneness, with
> the universe and all its Powers, and when they realize that at the
> center of the universe dwell Wakan Tanka, and that this center is
> really everywhere, it is within each of us.
>
> The second peace is that which is made between two individuals, and
> the third is that which is made between to nations. But above all you
> should understand that there can never be peace between nations until
> there is first known that true peace which, as I have often said, is
> within the souls of men."
>
> Steven Newcomb is Indigenous Law Research Coordinator at Kumeyaay
> Community College, co-founder and co-director of the Indigenous Law
> Institute, and a columnist for Indian Country Today.
>
> (Adapted from Indigenous News Network)
>
>
>
> Indian Country Dictionary:
>
>
>
> Commodify (kah MOD if eye) - uncanny ability of Indian women to
> convert the ingredients of any standard cookbook recipe to commodity
> ingredients such as powdered milk, powdered eggs and canned meat.
>
>
>
> Pow-wow-Vow (pow wow vow) - the standard pledge of the pow-wow Romeo:
> "Sure, baby, I'll meet you at the next pow-wow. You're the only
> jingle-dress dancer for me. Really! Look at this face. Would I lie?"
>
>
>
> Moccashoe (Mock ah shoe) - contemporary dance footwear designed by
> beading the top of tennis shoes or aquasocks instead of making
> moccasins  the old-fashioned way.
>
>
>
> Skinship (SKIN-ship) - the eventual relative connection that all
> Indian people discover within ten minutes of meeting each other.
>
>
>
> Visa-cheese (VEES ah cheez) - mode of exchange in which a block of
> commodity cheese can purchase other goods or services.
>
>
>
> Indinferior (IN din FEER ee your) - a manifestation of self-
> oppression;  the practice of Indians who look down on other Indians
> either for not  speaking the language or not being fullblood or not
> participating in  ceremonies or not living on the rez or not wearing
> braids or not dancing  in pow-wows or not having -- etc., etc., blah-
> blah.
>
>
>
> BIAilment (BEE EYE ALE ment) - an affliction within the Bureau of
> Indian Affairs, characterized by the inability to keep track of
> millions  of dollars.
>
>
>
> Triballistic (tribal ISS tik) - to become irrational and incoherent
> upon hearing the latest self-serving, short-sighted and illogical
> decision  made by the local tribal council.
>
>
>
> Rezercize (REZ er size) - the involuntary health regime of walking
> everywhere on the rez since your ndn car broke down for good.
>
>
>
> Fordrum (FORD drum) - the instrument used for singing purposes when a
> regular drum is not available; usually the dented hood of a one-eyed
> Ford.
>
>
>
> Frybreadth (FRY bredth) - a unit of measurement based on the standard
> size of a piece of auntie's frybread.
>
>
>
> Alter-native (alter NAY TIV) - an individual who was born and raised
> in  the non-Indian culture but recently "discovered" a "hidden"
Indian
> ancestor so now assumes a name such as Laughing Rainbow, White Wolf,
> or Dreams of Eagles.
>
>
>
> Councilmenopause (cown sil MEN oh paws) - a disorder characterized by
> hot flashes, profuse sweating impairment of speech and loss of memory;
> normally occurs only to tribal councilmen when cornered by a
> constituent.
>
>
>
> Disinderstanding (DISS inder stand ing) - when non-Indians think that
> they understand why tribes and individual Indians are the way they
> are,  but attribute any and all behavior to the overall culture or
> the  race.
> Recommended reading:
>
>    * Rethinking Columbus: Resources for teaching about the impact of
> the arrival of Columbus in the Americas.  (Rethinking Schools;
> ISBN#0-942961-20-X; about $10.)
>    * Dangerous Memories: Invasion & Resistance Since 1492. (To order
> contact The Chicago Religious Task Force on Central America, phone:
> 312-663-4398;  ISBN#0-9631026-0-5;  I think I paid about $25)
>    * Voice of Indigenous Peoples:  Native People Address the United
> Nations; includes the United Nations Draft Declaration of Indigenous
> Peoples' Rights. (Clear Light Press.  ISBN#0-940666-31-6;  $13)
>    * Bitter Fruit: The Untold Story of the American Coup in
> Guatemala. Schlesinger & Kinzer.  (Doubleday. ISBN#0-385-14861-5.
> about $25)
>    * Harvest of Violence: The Maya Indians and the Guatemalan Crisis.
> Ed. Carmack. (OU Press. ISBN#0-8061-2132-7)
>    * I, Rigoberta Menchu: An Indian Woman in Guatemala. (Verso Pub.
> ISBN#0-86091-788-6)
>    * The Fire This Time:  U.S. War Crimes in the Gulf. Ramsey Clark,
> former U.S. Attorney General. (Int'l Action Center.
> ISBN#0-9656916-8-3)
>    * Columbus was Last:  This is an older book (and I can't find my
> copy at this time but will update with ISBN and author as soon as I do
> find it.  This is a great book that documents historical research over
> several centuries pointing to other cultures that explored the
> Americas and traded with the indigenous peoples here long before
> Columbus.)
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