Re: Bill Bonde really is dumber than dirt, and likes it that way -- Simpson didn't KIDNAP anybody fercrisesakes!!!

Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought
the gun'' ) wrote:
> "Reality_Check©" wrote:
>>
>> Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who brought
>> the gun'' ) wrote:
>>> "Reality_Check©" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bill Bonde { ''Free OJ, no more time for him than the guy who
>>>> brought the gun'' ) wrote:
>>>>> John Rennie wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you have carefully dodged the argument re justice.
>>>>>> Forget the rest of society for a moment.  Consider yourself
>>>>>> having committed a murder because the man you murdered was
>>>>>> preferred by a woman you desired.   You are found out and you
>>>>>> are sentenced to death.   Would you consider that an unfair
>>>>>> sentence?    I don't think you would - you would still fight
>>>>>> against it but not because you thought it unfair. (Aren't I
>>>>>> doing a good job arguing for the retentionists?)   Of course
one
>>>>>> can't forget the rest of society and the grisly business of
>>>>>> state killing.   'One must kill the killer because killing is
>>>>>> wrong' is still an unshakable paradox.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Killing isn't what is wrong, murder is what is wrong. Heroes kill
>>>>> in war
>>>>
>>>> You really are one sick perverted ignoramus, aren't you Bonde?
>>>>
>>> What the hell?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> . The death penalty is just society making sure that those who
>>>>> commit the worst crimes are permanently separated from those whom
>>>>> they would otherwise make their next victims.
>>>>
>>>> That's what Saddam said when he had "criminals" executed in
Iraq.
>>>>
>>> Since I'm not arguing that the death penalty can't be unjust, do
>>> you have any point? Are you going to say that making the trains run
>>> on time is fascist because Mussolini could do it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> It also provides an important additional level of punishment
>>>>> beyond life in prison
>>>>> without parole.
>>>>
>>>> You still haven't shown that death is necessarily a
"penalty",
>>>> especially in the context of the alternative being Life without
>>>> Parole locked in a cage, every minute of every hour of every day of
>>>> every week of every month
>>>> of every year for the rest of one's life.
>>>>
>>> With room to move around, TV, reading and study materials,
>>> communications with the outside. Prison isn't pleasant but it's not
>>> generally as bad as being dead.
>>
>> What proof do you have that being dead is bad?
>>
>> Don't you believe the Judeo-Christina bullshit about Heaven?
>>
> What proof do I have that being dead is bad? I can see that
> discussing anything with you is going to require building a
> foundation that you don't seem to already have.

Translation: You ain't got squat.

>
>
>
>>> And since most people who are on death row fight for
>>> a reduction to life in prison, your argument doesn't have merit.
>>
>> 800,000 Americans who attempt to commit suicide, and 30,000
>> who succeed EVERY YEAR say you're wrong.
>>
> Most of those people don't really want to die.

Got proof?

> It's not that hard to die, it's life that's difficult.

Exactly. So why make it easier via the Death "Penalty" ?

> In any case, we aren't talking about people who want to die,
> we are talking about people who are on death row or could
> be on death row for committing murder.

No, we are talking about your so called "Death 'Penalty'".

You still haven't proffered one shred of evidence or
support for your unfounded assertion that death is
necessarily a penalty.
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