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Re: Be careful when signing anything

Von: Paul Nutteing (valid email address in post script ) (nutteing@quickfindit.com) [Profil]
Datum: 07.11.2009 10:17
Message-ID: <7lks8vF3eud2qU1@mid.individual.net>
Newsgroup: alt.uk.lawsoc.culture.irish uk.legal
Special Care <special.care03@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:69c2ab5d-536b-476e-a68e-dfcca439a989@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> Hi. A while ago my daughter was asked by a cop to make a witness
> statement and I sat in and signed it too.
> The policeman taking the statement wrote it on a standard form in his
> own handwriting, then asked us to sign it.
>
> Whenever I sign anything, my habit is to make sure nothing can be
> added to it after I sign it, and with that in mind, I might write 'END
> OF DOCUMENT' and then sign after those words,
> or, alternatively,
> I draw a horizontal line under the text and then a diagonal line below
> that, so that anything added on afterwards will have a line drawn
> through it in advance.
>
> I noticed that the form the policeman was using had a big, full-page
> box for the statement, the text of which did not fill the box, and
> then at the bottom of the page was the box for my signature.
>
> I told him of my habit of drawing the horizontal and diagonal line
> below anything I signed as a precaution against unauthorised
> additions.
> He replied with a bit of gobbledygook, indicating he did not want me
> to draw the two lines.
> As the case was of no great importance, I didn't argue about it.
>
> There was nothing to prevent the cop from adding to the statement, in
> that blank space, after he got back to his desk, so that my signature
> would appear below additional text which I had not authorised.
>
> I'd advise people to be careful about that when signing anything
> important - meaning draw that horizontal and diagonal line below the
> text so that any blank space is 'cancelled' in advance.

There must be a whole set of guidance for this
sort of thing.
Anyone know where to find it?
Technical term for it all ?

It includes why legalese does
not have punctuation other than full stop.
Why alterations have to be initialled.
All the width of the paper must be used , no gaps in the
text. Text should run from one page to the
next (numbered), not at the end of a sentence.
Pages to be written on , on the
original pad , for ESDA if necessary.

I had communication to police Chief Insp level to try
to get to the bottom of apparently missing
3 pages from a 5 page witness statement.

His reply
"The original statement is two
pages long, and it is quite clear that the officer recording the statement
incorrectly put the figure "1" in the space marked "consisting of  ...
pages".
This figure "1" was crossed through with a squiggly line making it appear on
the
photocopy as a "5". The number "2" was placed alongside the crossing
out.
Whilst the alteration was not initialled by the person making the
statement, it would appear that the failure to get this alteration
initialled was
an oversight by the officer taking the statement. There have certainly not
been
any pages removed from the statement itself, and you are incorrect in
assuming
that this was the case. "

A squiggly line that certainly looked like a 5, not a fully curvy line
then crossed thyough with a vertical 1
The text did not flow from one page to the next and changed topic
between them, adding to the suspicious nature.


ps
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