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Re: Did the the noun "Fuhrer" exist in the German language before Hitler?

Hello all:

I was immediately intrigued with this 'string' of comments that have
grown since the initial author presented the question about the term,
Fuhrer." Although I realize what I am about to present is a tangent
from  the initial question, I have often wondered about specific
topics concerning this period of German history.

Specifically, does anyone on this list have relatives (I know this is
a long shot only because of the amount of time that has elasped since
these darker days) who, perhaps, are still living, or more pointedly,
relatives who have heard 'first hand accounts' of this specific time
period? There is a rather personal reason for this query; my
grandfather would never talk about it. However, I also realize that
what is learned in the academic arena, whether in grade school or
collge (I have taken so many courses in college pertaining to history,
specifically world history, and I am somewhat of a buff with respect
to understanding the real stories behind those that are taught in the
many school systems) is often 'half-truths' or an author's perception
of history (as we all understand that any written material, whether
academic or otherwise always has some subjectivity).

I certainly do not want to state anything that might come to harm
anyone's emotions; I am simply asking if there is anyone 'in
cyberspace' on this list who may be willing to discuss some of the
issues concerning this period of history. I would most certainly wish
to conduct further discussions in a more private manner, such as
private e-mails. This, I say, only to ensure that I do not state
anything to the entire list that might be lost in interpretation; I am
extremely sensitive in these ways, particularly when one discusses
issues that have had long-lasting effects, leaving 'ripples'
throughout the historical time-line.

Thanks,

Mark -- in Ocala, Florida

On Sep 27, 3:57 am, Michael Baumgartner <michaelsuse...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Am Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:48:00 +0200 schrieb Einde O'Callaghan:
>
> > Olumide schrieb:
> >> Hi -
>
> >> I'd like to know of the noun Fuhrer" existed in German language
before
> >> Hitler?
>
> > Yes it did. It means "leader" or "guide" - juat like the
Italian word
> > "duce" which was the title used by Mussolini. BTW the spelling is
> > "Führer" - with a u-umlaut - or "Fuehrer" if you
can't produce umlaut
ed
> > letters.
>
> I'm not sure the two words compare so easily. "Führer" is and was an
> everyday word in German. Guides (both tourist guides and guide books)
> are called that, and a driving licence is "Führerschein" in German.
>
> I don't think that "duce" was as common or had such an ample meaning.
> Originally, it comes from Latin "dux", which means "military
leader" and
> shares that origin with English "duke".
>
> --
> Schönen Gruß aus der "lebenswertesten Stadt der
Welt"!http://www.iht.
com/articles/2007/06/18/arts/rmon1munich.php
>
> Michael

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