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Re: Financial Outlook

Von: gamefixer (gamefixer@gmail.com) [Profil]
Datum: 30.08.2008 17:15
Message-ID: <4c52f406-144c-4eaa-a674-20a3f4791485@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
Newsgroup: alt.video.ptv.tivo
On Aug 29, 3:02 pm, "CLicker" <CLic...@invalid.org> wrote:
> Ted Zlatanov wrote:
> > On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:23:17 GMT SINNER
> > <arcade.mas...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> * Ted Zlatanov wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> >>> BitTorrent makes for a pretty good DVR; the most popular
> >>> torrents
> >>> are TV shows, not movies or music.  I'm sure it's one of the
> >>> reasons TiVo is losing subscribers.  Perhaps they'll have a
> >>> client
> >>> in the OS by 2012, considering how long it took them to
> >>> support
> >>> external SATA storage.
>
> >> Not likely, most people are law abiding and torrents are
> >> among things
> >> presented as being illegal. Mostly geeks use torrents, usenet
> >> or
> >> ther p2p transports, there are not considerable enough
> >> numbers IMO
> >> to affect TiVo's business model.
>
> > Please read the article, especially the note about how the
> > counts are
> > probably much lower than the actual numbers, and coming from
> > just one
> > public tracker (there are thousands of public and private
> > trackets).
> > Also remember TiVo's subscriber base is skewed towards the
> > "geeks" as
> > you put it (I'd call them technologically savvy).
>
> >http://torrentfreak.com/top-10-most-pirated-movies-and-tv-shows-2007-...
>
> > I think those are pretty significant numbers.
>
> > Ted
>
> I can think of three motives presently to download TV shows:
>
> 1) On those rare occasions that there are/were not enough tuners
> available.
> 2) Where the show is not broadcast at all in your area - i.e.
> shown only in other countries.
> 3) Where the show is broadcast in HD but is only available
> locally in SD.
>
> None of these reasons mitigates the use of an HD-DVR from any
> manufacturer, merely enhances it.  Of course, it could be argued
> that it's necessary to buy/rent an additional HD-DVR to cover
> those rare, not-enough-tuners situations - assuming their lack
> were not due to power outage or forced evacuation.  However, in
> the third case I can't even see the ethical challenge.  When my
> cable service makes the desired show available in HD, I'll
> happily subscribe to its tier, if necessary.  Meanwhile, the HS
> cable modem is available to acquire the show as it was
> broadcast, rather than watch it chopped up and in SD quality.
>
> It's easy to solve the personally desirable, full-season
> archiving problem by using a PC, but there is no way for a
> customer to solve the HD channel availability problem without
> switching providers.
>
> As to the "not enough tuners" problem, it's unlikely to ever
> arise again with the current state of TV content;-)
>
> Thankfully, the internet has created a new source of video
> content - international viewing.  There have been some overseas
> gems, some of which have not yet reached US shores even years
> later.  Finding overseas content to augment the paucity of
> domestic content actually adds to the enjoyment of the video.  I
> see that the writers' strike earlier this year has encouraged US
> networks to buy complete shows and some scripts overseas.  Good
> idea!

I've used torrents to download shows for reason #1 a lot of times.
That and the occasional DVR hiccup where it doesnt record the shows
I've asked it too.

Matt

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